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Nov 13, 2020 11:24 |  #76

I never compared brands of batteries, but have many Wasabi & never an issue. The batteries in my old T2i still charge & work fine. These batteries, however, have never just sat around. I use the T2i even today, & own a 7D & 2 6Ds. I have 15 batteries for my 7D/6Ds, the only one showing a red "square" is the Canon batteries. Recently purchased a battery for my DJI drone that isn't made by DJI anymore so I had little choice. I don't know about anything else they sale but the drone battery has worked well. My DJI battery gave me 10-12 minutes of flight, this knockoff brand had some juice left when I landed after almost 20 minutes.

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Nov 13, 2020 11:32 |  #77

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The LP-E4N was a newer battery introduced during the 1DX cycle.

I was talking about the then current LP-E4 knock offs,. should have been more clear. at the time if writing, no 3rd party was making an LP-E4n, only LP-E4.


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Nov 13, 2020 11:37 |  #78

I had to go back to see what my comment was all about, I was like "what the heck did I reply to?" ... :D

Just need that Mr Fusion built so we can hook our gear and vehicles to it and then no more discussions about batteries!


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Nov 13, 2020 11:40 |  #79

I can expand on some of this.

SkedAddled wrote in post #19150608 (external link)
1 - Don't know about forward compability, I got mine for a 5D4 and have nothing newer to test with.
The generic BP511 packs have been good from the 40D to the 50D.
2 - Doing so may actually harm them, as they're made for charging higher-capacity batteries.
3 - Probably not, see #2.
4 - None whatsoever.
5 - It's where I found mine, directly from Wasabi.

1- My 3rd party LP-E6 Wasabi and Sterlingtek (STK) etc. are also working fine in the much newer EOS-R. They were purchased for 5D3, and 5D4. My first BP-511 3rd party was purchased in 2003 for my EOS 10D.
2- I have been charging my Canon batteries in 3rd party chargers almost exclusively with no ill effects.
3. This I agree, the Canon charger appears to stop before the 3rd party batts are full. I doubt that's bad for the battery, you just don't get max charge.
4- No error messages here either. I do get them with some 3rd party in EOS-R but you can just say your going to use it anyway and it then just works. I have no way to be sure, but I suspect those are the pre-5D4 batteries.
5_ I got most of mine from Amazon as well.


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Nov 13, 2020 11:48 |  #80

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19151420 (external link)
I had to go back to see what my comment was all about, I was like "what the heck did I reply to?" ... :D

Just need that Mr Fusion built so we can hook our gear and vehicles to it and then no more discussions about batteries!


Mr Fusion will give your R-6 88 fps....


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Nov 13, 2020 18:32 |  #81

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Mr Fusion will give your R-6 88 fps....

Mr. Fusion will power everything you have, and can ever have, for a lifetime. ;-)a
Just a shame we can't all have a working Flux Capacitor.


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Nov 13, 2020 19:04 |  #82

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19151423 (external link)
I can expand on some of this.

1- My 3rd party LP-E6 Wasabi and Sterlingtek (STK) etc. are also working fine in the much newer EOS-R. They were purchased for 5D3, and 5D4. My first BP-511 3rd party was purchased in 2003 for my EOS 10D.
2- I have been charging my Canon batteries in 3rd party chargers almost exclusively with no ill effects.
3. This I agree, the Canon charger appears to stop before the 3rd party batts are full. I doubt that's bad for the battery, you just don't get max charge.
4- No error messages here either. I do get them with some 3rd party in EOS-R but you can just say your going to use it anyway and it then just works. I have no way to be sure, but I suspect those are the pre-5D4 batteries.
5_ I got most of mine from Amazon as well.

Good on you for chiming in, Jake.
#1 - Glad to have this info indoctrinated into the discussion.
I've used BP-511 packs from many sources, all to good results, from known makers to no-namers.
#2 - Also a nice nod to the Wasabi chargers, which indicates a "smart charge" capability.
I'd have suspected overcharge potential, leading to possible involatile conditions.
#4 - More confirmation that OEMs 3rd-Party are NOT the time-bombs that die-hard loyalists make them out to be.
#5 - Just as I did, and they were sold and shipped directly from the US arm of Wasabi.

I've also purchased directly from SterlingTek/STK for my XTi, 40D and 50D cameras,
as well as the no-name 'Masione' generics from an eBay seller, with all of them
stating and delivering higher capacity than Canon OEM at a fractional cost,
which makes them a far better value. The higher capacity is realized,
holds a charge longer than OEM either loose or in-camera, charges faster,
and actually seems to last longer than OEM-spec examples.

When comparing price-to-performance ratio, it surprises me that anyone
would favor OEM over third-party offerings, unless they simply like to brag
about the amount of money they've spent on gear.
I've never been able to afford to be such a braggart.


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Apr 26, 2021 17:16 |  #83

SkedAddled wrote in post #18992712 (external link)
So far, the Wasabi packs have been exemplary, though I admit to
not having given them much of a workout.

My extensive and heavy use of Wasabi, in both LP-E6 and LP-E10, have proved them to be 100% rock solid reliable.

When buying new, I try to always buy Wasabi; we currently have eight LP-E6 Wasabi.

My 7DMkII absolutely eats batteries, several a day; the 7D, on the other hand, can go for two or three days before a battery change; this is with no grip on either camera; I have lately added grips to both; but, with the pandemic, I have not had opportunity to get much experience with them.

My gut experiences are that the Wasabi outlast the original Canons in either camera.

I bought both cameras from the same person and he provided me with a sack full of a duke's mixture of batteries, including the two Canon originals, Kastar, Power2000, Promaster, ReFuel, and STK SterlingTEK; all of these aftermarket batteries perform as well as the originals.

My only bad experiences with aftermarket batteries have been with LP-E10 that do not have any name-brand label on them.
I got two LP-E10 that were in boxes labeled Big Mike's, but the batteries themselves had no brand label at all; just the size and voltage information; these batteries worked okay for a couple months and then started losing power quickly and eventually swelled up so much that they had to be pried out of the camera.
I had a likewise experience with another pair of no-name LP-E10 batteries that came from another source.

I have not had a single problem with aftermarket batteries that have a brand label on the battery itself.
I have Halcyon and PowerExtra LP-E10 that have been going strong for several years.

Sure death for Lithium-Ion camera batteries is long-term storage when not fully charged; when the voltage drops below a certain level, it turns off the ability of the battery ever being charged again.
Batteries should be fully charged before storing and regularly topped off, at least once per year.




  
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Apr 26, 2021 17:34 |  #84

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18993186 (external link)
Keep in mind lpe6 batteries aren't just batteries, there is an electronic board attached to the cells to register to the camera and monitor/charge capacity.

Someone may have already covered this; I haven't finished reading every word.

All LP-E6 batteries and variants consist of two 3.7-volt 18500 cells and the electronic circuit.
When I read about this somewhere else on this site, someone said that just about all of them, regardless of brand, utilized a single brand of 18500; so, the only real difference would be in the electronic circuitry.




  
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Apr 26, 2021 20:02 |  #85

SkedAddled wrote in post #18897155 (external link)
So, it's been a while since it was discussed,
so I'd like to ask about LP-E6N batteries for a Canon 5D Mk IV,
or even a general recommendation for third-party batteries.

While we all know the LP-E6 has transitioned to the LP-E6N battery,
I'm finding it difficult to understand the differences.
What's the 'N' designation?
What are the differences between them?

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Quick Google search discloses

Canon batteries "With a 3.5% higher mAh rating of 1865 mAh versus 1800 mAh for the LP-E6, it provides higher capacity for each battery charge."

And now the Canon LP-E6NH (different size) has 2130 mAh.

Yet aftermarket LP-E6N have 2600 mAh


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Apr 26, 2021 22:08 |  #86

Wilt wrote in post #19228211 (external link)
Quick Google search discloses

Canon batteries "With a 3.5% higher mAh rating of 1865 mAh versus 1800 mAh for the LP-E6, it provides higher capacity for each battery charge."

And now the Canon LP-E6NH (different size) has 2130 mAh.

Yet aftermarket LP-E6N have 2600 mAh

Hey, Wilt?

This all went down in July, 2019. Just sayin'.

For what it's worth, it seems this topic's been played out.
Wasabi seems to take first place, STK/SterlingTek 2nd place,
with a bunch of others coming into close play.
The other 3rd-party batteries still come in at over the rated MAh rating
of OEM Canon batteries, with great results, as my own experiences
have proven out, and many others confirming.

Not much sense in getting so fired-up over an OEM battery
when you can have multiples and a charger for less than the cost
of that lone battery.


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Apr 27, 2021 01:31 |  #87

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Hey, Wilt?

This all went down in July, 2019. Just sayin'.

I should not have gotten pulled in by several other recent posts preceding mine! I wish there was a more visible indicator of threads started over a year ago.


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Apr 27, 2021 21:26 |  #88

Wilt wrote in post #19228310 (external link)
I should not have gotten pulled in by several other recent posts preceding mine! I wish there was a more visible indicator of threads started over a year ago.

No worries, Wilt. I just threw a reminder out there.
Do with it what you will; it was only a reminder on my behalf
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