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Jan 17, 2020 12:23 |  #736

The Tang Soo Do class was first and I was struggling with ISO shifting on me due to the touch bar settings, I now have the lock button controlling only ISO.

So the BJJ shots is where I used eye focus. But these two are a good representation of it switching from one person to the next while continuous shooting.

It's 3 shots which I believe is technically breaking a rule so I hope I get a "Get out of jail free" card for this one.

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Jan 17, 2020 12:23 |  #737

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Jan 17, 2020 12:26 |  #738

Shaun Liddy wrote in post #18993537 (external link)
The Tang Soo Do class was first and I was struggling with ISO shifting on me due to the touch bar settings, I now have the lock button controlling only ISO.

So the BJJ shots is where I used eye focus. But these two are a good representation of it switching from one person to the next while continuous shooting.

It's 3 shots which I believe is technically breaking a rule so I hope I get a "Get out of jail free" card for this one.
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Yes that bar is sensitive.


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Jan 17, 2020 17:28 |  #739

digital paradise wrote in post #18993540 (external link)
Yes that bar is sensitive.

Just to add this and post #736. The full bar swipe works good. Several months ago I found using the left or right side for other functions a little finicky. Today I set the left side for Auto ISO. I messed around with it and just like it says on page 562 of the manual, you tap it. You can't hold it. A slight tap does it and it is consistent.

By default the bar is locked. I had disabled when I got it and used the lock button. I enabled it today to try it. It enables quickly and takes a few seconds to disable however I'm finding it finicky. It does not always react. I tried switching Auto ISO to right side but it didn't help. I'm going to keep the bar enabled via the menu and use the lock button like I did before.

Using the left (or right) side for Auto ISO is very handy. I'm still using the full bar for ISO.


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Jan 17, 2020 17:38 |  #740

Curious how focus is acting for those pushing past f11. I ask as I am thinking about buying a teleconverter, likely a 2x. That will take my 150-600 to f13 (f12.6 by the math).

I did a little testing with just the lens and it achieves AF even at f40. Yes IQ is well, not the best there, but I was happy to see that even focuses at that fatop.

It's not super fast focusing from full rack even at f6.3 (about 4 seconds) but the fact it does it is nice.

Here I set up at:
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F13
0 EV achieved via iso 400 (center point)

Lens was set to infinity and it autofocused.


First is straight out of camera (raw) just resized. Second is minor slider and sharpening via LR.

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Jan 17, 2020 18:06 |  #741

Shaun Liddy wrote in post #18993692 (external link)
Curious how focus is acting for those pushing past f11. I ask as I am thinking about buying a teleconverter, likely a 2x. That will take my 150-600 to f13 (f12.6 by the math).

I did a little testing with just the lens and it achieves AF even at f40. Yes IQ is well, not the best there, but I was happy to see that even focuses at that fatop.

It's not super fast focusing from full rack even at f6.3 (about 4 seconds) but the fact it does it is nice.

Here I set up at:
Min focus distance
500mm
F13
0 EV achieved via iso 400 (center point)

Lens was set to infinity and it autofocused.


First is straight out of camera (raw) just resized. Second is minor slider and sharpening via LR.
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Forgive me if I have misinterpreted the question but my R can AF with a 10-stop filter on it. I *think* it did with a 10 and 6 combined too. I don't think f/11 will be a problem unless you need it to be super fast.


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Jan 17, 2020 18:26 |  #742

Shaun Liddy wrote in post #18993537 (external link)
The Tang Soo Do class was first and I was struggling with ISO shifting on me due to the touch bar settings, I now have the lock button controlling only ISO.

So the BJJ shots is where I used eye focus. But these two are a good representation of it switching from one person to the next while continuous shooting.

It's 3 shots which I believe is technically breaking a rule so I hope I get a "Get out of jail free" card for this one.
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very cool - Thanks!


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Jan 17, 2020 19:20 |  #743

I could be wrong but I believe AF with ND filters is different than a closed down aperture.

Canon days you can use AF to F11, where many older bodies are F8 or even less.

Mostly what I would be doing with a 2x extender would be slower moving or static wildlife on the ground or the moon.

I'd use MF for the moon, if I had to I'd do the same for the mentioned wildlife, but it would be nice if f13-f16 would AF (f6.3-f8 with a 2x tele).




  
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Jan 17, 2020 19:28 |  #744

C Scott IV wrote in post #18993709 (external link)
Forgive me if I have misinterpreted the question but my R can AF with a 10-stop filter on it. I *think* it did with a 10 and 6 combined too. I don't think f/11 will be a problem unless you need it to be super fast.

It can auto focus with a Big Stopper on? COOL 8-)




  
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Jan 17, 2020 19:43 |  #745

Dillan_K wrote in post #18993742 (external link)
It can auto focus with a Big Stopper on? COOL 8-)

Yup! So can the 80D in LiveView but you can't see much through the 80D viewfinder. The R is the best of both worlds in that regard.


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Jan 17, 2020 19:47 |  #746

Shaun Liddy wrote in post #18993739 (external link)
I could be wrong but I believe AF with ND filters is different than a closed down aperture.

Canon days you can use AF to F11, where many older bodies are F8 or even less.

Mostly what I would be doing with a 2x extender would be slower moving or static wildlife on the ground or the moon.

I'd use MF for the moon, if I had to I'd do the same for the mentioned wildlife, but it would be nice if f13-f16 would AF (f6.3-f8 with a 2x tele).

I *think* early on in the R thread there are posts from people stacking converters past f/11 and getting AF. May want to try looking there.


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Jan 18, 2020 08:24 as a reply to  @ C Scott IV's post |  #747

I’ve done 1.4 and 2x adapter are same time on R with 150-600 - I think f13
It will try. And it’s slow. And will lock if your target is very well lit and still

I couldn’t focus on a bird on a branch in shade but I could focus on a leaf in sun just a couple of feet over.
I wouldn’t consider it usable. But it can work.


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Jan 18, 2020 13:54 |  #748

digital paradise wrote in post #18993689 (external link)
Just to add this and post #736. The full bar swipe works good. Several months ago I found using the left or right side for other functions a little finicky. Today I set the left side for Auto ISO. I messed around with it and just like it says on page 562 of the manual, you tap it. You can't hold it. A slight tap does it and it is consistent.

By default the bar is locked. I had disabled when I got it and used the lock button. I enabled it today to try it. It enables quickly and takes a few seconds to disable however I'm finding it finicky. It does not always react. I tried switching Auto ISO to right side but it didn't help. I'm going to keep the bar enabled via the menu and use the lock button like I did before.

Using the left (or right) side for Auto ISO is very handy. I'm still using the full bar for ISO.

I've set mine for swipe AF with the lock button to lock just the M-Fn bar. This has finally (for me) made the M-fn bar useful. Will try other settings as I get used to it.




  
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Jan 18, 2020 14:21 |  #749

gce wrote in post #18994117 (external link)
I've set mine for swipe AF with the lock button to lock just the M-Fn bar. This has finally (for me) made the M-fn bar useful. Will try other settings as I get used to it.

I tried to find a button I could program for Auto ISO but it doesn’t look like that option is available. It would save a step unlocking it but my current set up isn’t too bad.


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Jan 18, 2020 15:37 |  #750

SMP_Homer wrote in post #18993974 (external link)
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I’ve done 1.4 and 2x adapter are same time on R with 150-600 - I think f13
It will try. And it’s slow. And will lock if your target is very well lit and still
I couldn’t focus on a bird on a branch in shade but I could focus on a leaf in sun just a couple of feet over.
I wouldn’t consider it usable. But it can work.
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This sounds like precisely the type of situation in which focus peaking would be most helpful. . Have you tried that with the multiple extenders?


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