EOS R TECH THREAD- Its time for others who will jump into canon Mirrorless bodies

Never did - I should !

FP is a neat feature, I plaid with it the other night when checking out high ISO shots with my sigma 14mm f1.8 going up to a most 256k.

Trying to play with everything (non-video) I can. The more I play with, the more I learn and hopefully take better shots.

Shaun Liddy wrote in post #18995054
FP is a neat feature, I plaid with it the other night when checking out high ISO shots with my sigma 14mm f1.8 going up to a most 256k.

Trying to play with everything (non-video) I can. The more I play with, the more I learn and hopefully take better shots.

Focus peaking is more useful for still photography than I thought it would be.

The ability of the EVF to see in the dark has led me more often to shoot in conditions that the AF can't handle successfully. Focus peaking to the rescue.

Speaking of AF in the dark, one thing I can say about the R that I am sure will raise hackles, but damn if it isn't the case, it's pants in low light vs. the 5D4. I find myself relying on manual and focus peaking in situations where I'd never even consider it to be a challenge for the 5D4,. and yet the R is hunting etc. I've found this to be the case with native RF lens and really fast (f/1.8) converted EF lenses alike. To me the difference between these two bodies in that particular situation is DRAMATIC. In fact the 7D2 is better as well.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18995303
Speaking of AF in the dark, one thing I can say about the R that I am sure will raise hackles, but damn if it isn't the case, it's pants in low light vs. the 5D4. I find myself relying on manual and focus peaking in situations where I'd never even consider it to be a challenge for the 5D4,. and yet the R is hunting etc. I've found this to be the case with native RF lens and really fast (f/1.8) converted EF lenses alike. To me the difference between these two bodies in that particular situation is DRAMATIC. In fact the 7D2 is better as well.

Them's fight'n words!

Interesting sidebar tidbit that I think is relevant. I don't want to just see this get ignored.

Nikon just released a FW update to the Z6 that gives RAW video output. Did Nikon just single-handedly totally trump the R for video work? Did they know Canon couldn't or wouldn't release such an update to the R? Because of an upcoming release? Because they could use the excuse the Digic 8 couldn't handle it? (Which we all know is untrue because we've had RAW with ML since, what, the Mk II?)

Interesting point of discussion, methinks (hehehehe).

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #18996023
Interesting sidebar tidbit that I think is relevant. I don't want to just see this get ignored.

Nikon just released a FW update to the Z6 that gives RAW video output. Did Nikon just single-handedly totally trump the R for video work?

I don't know but I like seeing Nikon and Canon follow this trend of improving cameras via firmware updates instead of just addressing bugs. I hope it continues. I'd love to see another round of autofocus performance improvements.

digital paradise wrote in post #18985508
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You are probably correct. I thought exposure sim would chew up more power.
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But doesn't it also show you exposure simulation on the LCD display?

I mean, it would seem ridiculous to have something like exposure simulation, and then limit it to only being shown on one of the displays.


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CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18995303
Speaking of AF in the dark, one thing I can say about the R that I am sure will raise hackles, but damn if it isn't the case, it's pants in low light vs. the 5D4. I find myself relying on manual and focus peaking in situations where I'd never even consider it to be a challenge for the 5D4,. and yet the R is hunting etc. I've found this to be the case with native RF lens and really fast (f/1.8) converted EF lenses alike. To me the difference between these two bodies in that particular situation is DRAMATIC. In fact the 7D2 is better as well.

EXACTLY

It just does not cut it when its dark and especially if its dark and you have back light going on for situations like a dance floor

Nikon Z owners are in an even worse shape. They put them away and grab the D850's if they need to flash

I will take it 1 step further.....Heavy back light in late afternoon light....The R misses more than it hits

So I know the EOS R guys are going to pounce on this. 4 weddings this summer in exact same light situations.....The R missed same shots the 5D4 and 1Dx2 did not and it was a lot

umphotography wrote in post #18996114
I will take it 1 step further.....Heavy back light in late afternoon light....The R misses more than it hits

So I know the EOS R guys are going to pounce on this. 4 weddings this summer in exact same light situations.....The R missed same shots the 5D4 and 1Dx2 did not and it was a lot

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Do you mean when you are shooting directly into very strong sunlight, like this?

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #18996023
Interesting sidebar tidbit that I think is relevant. I don't want to just see this get ignored.

Nikon just released a FW update to the Z6 that gives RAW video output. Did Nikon just single-handedly totally trump the R for video work? Did they know Canon couldn't or wouldn't release such an update to the R? Because of an upcoming release? Because they could use the excuse the Digic 8 couldn't handle it? (Which we all know is untrue because we've had RAW with ML since, what, the Mk II?)

I don't know. The EOS R exports Log, which is not the same thing as RAW, nor is one definitely better the other. It seems more to me that Nikon has sort of caught up to the EOS R.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18996105
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But doesn't it also show you exposure simulation on the LCD display?

I mean, it would seem ridiculous to have something like exposure simulation, and then limit it to only being shown on one of the displays.

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I suppose it would in that case.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18996122
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Do you mean when you are shooting directly into very strong sunlight, like this?

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I sure hope not, because my DSLRs suck at this, and I was hoping that the new mirrorless stuff would just get it perfect 100% of the time.

Heck, even my buddy's 1DX2 failed miserably at this extreme "into the sun" stuff. . Are you really saying that Canon's brand new mirrorless tech won't nail this focus every time? . If not, and if I found that even the 1DX2 mightily struggles, then what camera is there that will just do it instantly and perfectly every single time? . Hopefully there's something out there?

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Tom

these look like sun is directly on camera axis for the shots. NOTHING is going to get a really decent shot with the sun directly into the lens. Im talking about heavy backlight with sun off camera axis. I will need to go turn on my iMac and grab the examples for you. Im on my laptop

umphotography wrote in post #18996500
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these look like sun is directly on camera axis for the shots. NOTHING is going to get a really decent shot with the sun directly into the lens. Im talking about heavy backlight with sun off camera axis. I will need to go turn on my iMac and grab the examples for you. Im on my laptop

There is one way I can think of, a very powerful fill flash. The only way to overpower the sun is to bring in additional light stronger than the sun. Clearly for wildlife shooting this is exceptionally difficult as the subjects are usually a distance off and flash falloff is going to be a significant factor, but it is possible.

gjl711 wrote in post #18996509
There is one way I can think of, a very powerful fill flash. The only way to overpower the sun is to bring in additional light stronger than the sun. Clearly for wildlife shooting this is exceptionally difficult as the subjects are usually a distance off and flash falloff is going to be a significant factor, but it is possible.

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In this type of situation, I don't understand how using flash would help me to acquire focus and track the subject as it walks from one side of the frame to the other.

Also, if I used flash, then there is going to be light on the subject. . I am looking to create more of a silhouette type image with extremely strong rimlight and a blown out sky in the background. In other words, what I see with my eyes when I am squinting directly into the sun at a deer is what I want the photos to look like.

Also, I am getting directly into axis with the sun because I think the scene looks best from that angle. . When I am slightly off-axis, it just doesn't look as dramatic.

I think that the focus peaking feature of the R would be great for confirming focus in these situations ...... but I don't know how I would use that feature when I am holding the camera and heavy lens up to my eyeball. . It seems like focus peaking would only work, ergonomically, in situations where you have the camera on a tripod. . Unless ..... is focus peaking visible through the EVF, or only on the rear LCD? If you can see it in the viewfinder, then it would be very helpful and practical to use for this type of shooting.

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