EOS R TECH THREAD- Its time for others who will jump into canon Mirrorless bodies

It is cropping it for you, you would have to do that yourself if the camera didn't. That is the entire concept behind APS-C and lenses designed for such. At least now you have access to some very inexpensive and sometimes very useful glass.

Today, now I can use my 27-88mm f2.8 IS lens on my R, something I could never do before (Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS).

I am sure I can find a ton of testimonies from people where they say they have posters printed from a 12Mpx camera and those prints look great today, therefore the R cropping this out for you should yield the same kind of result these days.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18999391
It is cropping it for you, you would have to do that yourself if the camera didn't. That is the entire concept behind APS-C and lenses designed for such. At least now you have access to some very inexpensive and sometimes very useful glass.

Today, now I can use my 27-88mm f2.8 IS lens on my R, something I could never do before (Canon 17-55 f2.8 IS).

I am sure I can find a ton of testimonies from people where they say they have posters printed from a 12Mpx camera and those prints look great today, therefore the R cropping this out for you should yield the same kind of result these days.

I get all that

only makes sense to do it when this lens gives you something none of your available lenses can do

You would use this when:
1) you would have used a crop body anyways, and happen to have some EFS lenses, and don't need 20-24Mpx for the end result.
2) you are shooting video and want a wide angle, so you pop a 10-18 on the camera. It would crop it down anyways, so now the EFS crop mode takes care of that for you with no additional cropping.

I think #2 has been where most of the value of this mode has been used. Vloggers can get 16mm with the 10-18mm STM with no cropping beyond the video crop mode now.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18999348
- Try out eye AF, or at least iTR
- Use drag AF using the rear screen to change your AF points (use quadrant perhaps, and use absolute, not relative)
- Focus peaking is fun to try out
- Pop a 1.4x or 2x on one of your long lenses and watch AF still lock at f11
- Use 5x or 10x in the EVF as you set up for a shot to check critical focus
- Burst rate is dismal so nothing there to try out, the burst rate is so slow in AI servo to almost be useless
- Play with that touch bar, but it isn't worth the real estate it takes up IMO. I could have used a few more buttons than a touch bar.
- Try an EFS lens if you have it

Precise and logical advice.

SMP_Homer wrote in post #18999357
Not my proudest moment !

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I have that and the 55-250 for light travel lenses. Good IQ for the price.

sploo wrote in post #18999340
I'll be getting a loaner EOS R tomorrow (just for one day), with the 24-105 and EF adapter. I currently have a 5D4, so what are the major features I should be trying out? I.e. other than the obvious viewfinder differences, what should I test to see if the R will be "better" in some areas?

Enjoy in focus shots without having to worry about MFA. My number one reason why I got it.

SMP_Homer wrote in post #18999399
I get all that

only makes sense to do it when this lens gives you something none of your available lenses can do

Especially useful for the 1.7x 4K video crop factor on the EOS-R. It provides the WA you otherwise would not have.

HTH, kind regards, Wim

SMP_Homer wrote in post #18999399
I get all that

only makes sense to do it when this lens gives you something none of your available lenses can do

Yeah, not sure the 18-55mm is the right option for that. But if you are "kit limited" being able to throw on zoom ranges that are specific to EF-S like the 18-135mm actually can make a lot of sense. I picked up the R's solution, the 24-240mm, and that lens is HUGE!!! Way bigger than the 18-135mm with the EF adapter. I can't quite figure how/why Canon choose such massive lenses for the first ones to go on the R.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18999520
Yeah, not sure the 18-55mm is the right option for that. But if you are "kit limited" being able to throw on zoom ranges that are specific to EF-S like the 18-135mm actually can make a lot of sense. I picked up the R's solution, the 24-240mm, and that lens is HUGE!!! Way bigger than the 18-135mm with the EF adapter. I can't quite figure how/why Canon choose such massive lenses for the first ones to go on the R.

But considering the RF 24-240 is replacing the EF 28-300L, at least for me, it is a welcome size/weight difference. Half the weight and smaller without any loss of IQ is a good thing.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18999348
- Try out eye AF, or at least iTR
- Use drag AF using the rear screen to change your AF points (use quadrant perhaps, and use absolute, not relative)
- Focus peaking is fun to try out
- Pop a 1.4x or 2x on one of your long lenses and watch AF still lock at f11
- Use 5x or 10x in the EVF as you set up for a shot to check critical focus
- Burst rate is dismal so nothing there to try out, the burst rate is so slow in AI servo to almost be useless
- Play with that touch bar, but it isn't worth the real estate it takes up IMO. I could have used a few more buttons than a touch bar.
- Try an EFS lens if you have it

Thanks.

Well, I've spent some time with the EOS R and I like:

• The focus peaking
  
• That you can zoom the live image on the EVF, as well as the rear screen
  
• That it continues to show the current mode on the top panel, even when the camera is off
  

sploo wrote in post #19000297
The position of the MENU button seems odd - the only one of the left side; meaning you need to reach across the screen (if open) to hit it.

OK, I've seen this a couple times now, so I'll ask... it's in roughly the same spot as most of their cameras, so is the issue that the Info button isn't over there also? What am I missing?

The issue is that the R has fewer buttons and functions, thus you have to run to the menu quite a bit more than in other bodies. So the issues are:
- The menu button is on the left side, but you need to use it often. You can configured another button to be menu, but then you have one less button in an already bit sparse ergonomic situation.
- The menu button cannot be reconfigured.
- There is a touchbar lock button on the top panel on the right side, that one would rarely use, and it also cannot be reconfigured, ie. a menu button.

Canon should have simply swapped the Lock and Menu buttons around, and that would have solved some issues. Or allow us to reconfigure the buttons if nothing else.

sploo wrote in post #19000297
... but I'm still not convinced it's great for anything that moves.

A very good summation, and I'd say I agree with the last statement, but in fact I have taken it further.

I AM CONVINCED that it is NOT great for anything that moves!
But that still leaves so much it is good at.

rh18 wrote in post #19000356
OK, I've seen this a couple times now, so I'll ask... it's in roughly the same spot as most of their cameras, so is the issue that the Info button isn't over there also? What am I missing?

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And just to ad little but re-iterate,

As a relative newcomer to the EOS R, and a Canon DSLR shooter is quite used to the menu button being on the left,

On the R, the menu button is poorly placed! It just does not fit the way this mirror-less camera is being used.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19000392
The issue is that the R has fewer buttons and functions, thus you have to run to the menu quite a bit more than in other bodies. So the issues are:
- The menu button is on the left side, but you need to use it often. You can configured another button to be menu, but then you have one less button in an already bit sparse ergonomic situation.
- The menu button cannot be reconfigured.
- There is a touchbar lock button on the top panel on the right side, that one would rarely use, and it also cannot be reconfigured, ie. a menu button.

Canon should have simply swapped the Lock and Menu buttons around, and that would have solved some issues. Or allow us to reconfigure the buttons if nothing else.

There are twelve configurable buttons on the Canon EOS-R; the multi-function bar can have three separate functions applied to it; the control ring adds another one. That is a total of sixteen configurable buttons. In addition to that any lens that has a lens button can also be configured.

Personally I don’t have a problem with the menu button being where it is. Any parameters that I may need to change whilst shooting are accessed by one of the 16 aforementioned buttons.