Flashpoint R2 Single Pin Transceiver

Single Pin manual R2 trigger for all camera systems? Interesting..

https://www.adorama.co​m/fprrr2sptk.html

Release info here, doesn't interest me until they can properly trigger one camera shutter remotely from another when I take a picture from master camera like the yongnuo rf603.

http://flashhavoc.com …in-transceivers-released/

I got a pair on order, will test the setup once they arrive. I want to get a clear concept of what you want to do: you shoot with camera A with a trigger on the hotshoe, and a transceiver in TRX mode on camera B's hotshoe with sync cable connected to shutter remote port, so both cameras fire at the same time? Are they sharing the flash?

Lotto wrote in post #18918940
I got a pair on order, will test the setup once they arrive. I want to get a clear concept of what you want to do: you shoot with camera A with a trigger on the hotshoe, and a transceiver in TRX mode on camera B's hotshoe with sync cable connected to shutter remote port, so both cameras fire at the same time? Are they sharing the flash?

I use Yongnuo to do that now, and don't use flash in this mode, but it would work as well, from what I understand. I need a camera behind the backboard, while I sit on the perimeter of the court, and want to shoot a burst as a dunk is taking place, so that I get two completely different perspectives at the same time. I plan on expanding this so that I can have a camera on the side (where I can guarantee it is protected and nobody walks off with it), so that I can have 3 shots at the same time.

The 605 units do this now, in 603 mode, and I saw shutter triggers on these Flashpoint units and was hoping it would do the same, but from the comments, it doesn't look like it can do that. I await your findings.

The unfortunate thing is that I sold my SL2 and 7D2, which had shutter trigger ports. The M50 doesn't, and I didn't know that when I bought it. So all I can get now is a bluetooth trigger which is useless for my goals. So now I have to keep an eye out for a refurb SL2 for super cheap, so I can do this again, the M50 is useless for this.

I even tried to put the M50 under the basket as far as they allow me to, and then tried to use the phone to trigger it during a dunk. The delay was terrible. I don't want to spend $40 for a bluetooth button remote, that seems crazy to me.

I see you want to shoot in "Matrix" mode with multiple cameras I don't know if the Flashpoint SPT can do that, but I will try when I get them. What I really want is to fire the camera and the flash with a single transceiver, like the YN 603.

Ouch remote camera without the trigger port would be major pain. I don't shoot indoor basketball, but I always wonder if we could shoot 4K video and do the frame capture with the dunks.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18918585
Release info here, doesn't interest me until they can properly trigger one camera shutter remotely from another when I take a picture from master camera like the yongnuo rf603.

http://flashhavoc.com …in-transceivers-released/

I've been playing the new transceivers for a few days. Unfortunately they can't do the camera to camera remote shooting. There are couple issues here..

1) The new transceivers using single pin. Canon cameras (and almost all the other brands) use two stage trigger, first stage (half press) activate/power up the system, second stage opens the shutter. So with the single pin design, we would ran into all sort of problems of system not waking up, or only fire on second click. I also have a set of older YN 602 that can do the camera to camera remote. Even though it's manual flash firing only, the 602 trigger has five pins, and it uses one of the smaller pins as half-press signaling when use as shutter remote.

2) Godox trigger when on Canon hot shoe. When hand pressing the Fire button on the Tx, half press would turn on the green light on both the transmitter and the receiver, and full press turns on red. But when the transmitter is seating on hot shoe triggered by the camera, the green light on the Tx never comes on. So there seems to be a interface problem with Godox on the hot shoe. I've tested the X1, Xpro, XproII, and now the SPT. Same problem with the X1R as the receiver.

So one trigger hand remotes two cameras with receivers OK; but one camera triggers another, no go with Godox.

Thank you... Perhaps with a couple changes in the future, they could do this but would likely require at least one more active pin. I will stay with Yong nuo for that, it works quite well.

Maybe it's just me, but these are intended to integrate old speedlights or wired systems of another brand into the new Godox system. Anything else is just gravy.

As someone who often has to use multiple transmitters, 32 dollars for a set two is a huge bargain. I'm sure there are tons of folks looking to make easy use of an old Alien Bee or pack/head system with their new Godox stuff. A lot of those systems (even old on camera flashes) don't go into power save mode anyway.

They do work as shutter releases, but apparently not in one specialized set up of firing two cameras at once.

:shrug:

Well, yet another device that Does Not Suit Every Possible Desire Every Human On Earth Can Possibly Conceive.

Garbage!

Left Handed Brisket wrote in post #18924457
Maybe it's just me, but these are intended to integrate old speedlights or wired systems of another brand into the new Godox system. Anything else is just gravy.

As someone who often has to use multiple transmitters, 32 dollars for a set two is a huge bargain. I'm sure there are tons of folks looking to make easy use of an old Alien Bee or pack/head system with their new Godox stuff. A lot of those systems (even old on camera flashes) don't go into power save mode anyway.

They do work as shutter releases, but apparently not in one specialized set up of firing two cameras at once.

:shrug:

Except for the fact that in the advertising, they talk about the virtues of the remote shutter triggering capabilities. Therefore it isn't really gravy, it is expected behavior.

I just wanted to know how far down that rabbit hole they went with this. It appears to be a very rudimentary RF shutter trigger system then, and even worse than others, because you cannot half press the button to cause AF to occur, then press the rest of the way to take the shot. This renders the "remote shutter" trigger part of the product to be nearly useless.

There are 3 levels to remote shutter triggering:
- Wake up and AF
- Take a shot
- Ability to detect when a shot was taken and transmit to another unit to trigger that shutter

The last of the 3 is something that seems to only occur with the RF603 (or RF605 in 603 mode) with YongNuo. This is very handy to do that "matrix" effect if you have 2 or more cameras all around an activity and want multiple angles at the same time. Not handy for wildlife, per say, but definitely for sports/action.

Great for skateboarding, snowboarding, racing, ball related sports where there is a singular goal/area, and a plethora of other conditions.

It looks like this only handles 1 of 3, where the first two are the most common to almost all other RF trigger systems, Phottix, YongNuo, Neewer, etc.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18918585
Release info here, doesn't interest me until they can properly trigger one camera shutter remotely from another when I take a picture from master camera like the yongnuo rf603.

http://flashhavoc.com …in-transceivers-released/

I used to use the most basic Pocketwizard for this. I still have them somewhere.

There is a Godox solution, sadly it's not compatible with all the other R2 stuff,. older 433mhz frequency etc. it's called CellsII.

Both are single pin (at least I know the Pocketwizards are)
It sucks that the R2 receivers can't do it.

At least with some fo the Godox triggers, stacking is possible,. but that's awkward and cumbersome.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #18924489
I just wanted to know how far down that rabbit hole they went with this. It appears to be a very rudimentary RF shutter trigger system then, and even worse than others, because you cannot half press the button to cause AF to occur, then press the rest of the way to take the shot. .

You can half press the TEST fire button to autofocus and and awake a camera, and full press to release the shutter.

The thing people are complaining about is the lack of ability to remotely fire one camera from another.

I've been talking to the manufacturers this week regarding this, and they reminded me of my own conclusions during development of these with regards to the issues involved, and the main one is that these are compatible with the Godox radio receivers which we have no control over. Where with the RF-603/605 YongNuo have control over the transceivers as receivers as well, they don't have to be compatible with receivers they have no control over.

At this point the compromise would be you would lose the dual step TEST button to gain the remote Camera A firing Camera B capability. And I suspect that would have actually suited more people if done initially, though I'm not sure if its a good compromise to make now.

elv wrote in post #18924564
You can half press the TEST fire button to autofocus and and awake a camera, and full press to release the shutter.

The thing people are complaining about is the lack of ability to remotely fire one camera from another.

I've been talking to the manufacturers this week regarding this, and they reminded me of my own conclusions during development of these with regards to the issues involved, and the main one is that these are compatible with the Godox radio receivers which we have no control over. Where with the RF-603/605 YongNuo have control over the transceivers as receivers as well, they don't have to be compatible with receivers they have no control over.

At this point the compromise would be you would lose the dual step TEST button to gain the remote Camera A firing Camera B capability. And I suspect that would have actually suited more people if done initially, though I'm not sure if its a good compromise to make now.

They don't have to be compatible with the YongNuo, I just want to use all Godox/Flashpoint items. I never thought that I would be able to use both systems, I just wanted one system, and saw that they had shutter triggering and was hoping they could have one unit send the flash shoe signal to another unit that would have the shutter release cable hooked, and would fire that shutter too.

It doesn't seem to be terribly difficult, but it must be as there is only one current system that does it today pretty flawlessly, and fortunately they are quite cheap at about $40 per transceiver.

Camera -> hot shoe -> transmitter ............. receiver -> shutter cable -> camera shutter

Doesn't bother me that I have to still use YongNuo for this, was just hopeful maybe I could buy a new toy.

I don't mean compatible with YongNuo.

The R2 SPT are not made by Godox, they are made by a different company, so they basically have to reverse engineer the Godox system to make them compatible.

And part of the problem there is they need to function correctly while using Godox transmitters and receivers in combination with them. And they can't change the Godox units to help things work nicely together, where YongNuo have control over their complete system.

At this point they are saying we can add the Camera A firing Camera B capability if wanted, but the trade off will be the 2 step TEST button will be lost. So I'm not sure what is best to do.

I have asked if they could make it work using the sync port for the shutter release instead (as that is crrently working, just not consistently) and then we could hopefully leave the TEST function as it is, but no response on that yet.

Hopefully they can come up with some way to make this all work. They have done a great job to get this far.

"The R2 SPT are not made by Godox, they are made by a fifferent company,"

Well, that's interesting.

Seems like that kind of thing might sour the relationship a bit.