-= 90D owners unite! Discuss and Post Photos

Received my copy of the 90D a few minutes ago - didn’t vlog the unpacking for YouTube.

Went through the camera menus and changed some of the settings I always change and am so far enjoying the few test shots I’ve taken around my house. It definitely feels a bit smaller and definitely lighter than my other bodies.

A couple of very minor disappointments though:

1. the wheel around the SET button is smaller and also now has its own multidirectional button! So now that wheel there doesn’t rotate when touched from the top as I was accustomed to doing on my 5D bodies - will take nothing more than an adjustment to my habit to overcome this for changing exposure compensation.

2. The small button above the shutter release isn’t assignable through the custom controls. Again not a biggie but will have to reassign my other body so these buttons all do the same thing on all cameras.

But those minor differences are nothing: Am going to love the 1.6 crop and the image size and quality as demonstrated by so many of you folks here!

ALSO: I think I may enjoy playing with the various “creative filters” options from the shooting dial - I haven’t looked through the manual yet, but I’m assuming those end up with JPEG files.

have heard here that the 90D and the Sigma 150-600 don't mate well, now my picture from this evening is not up to the high standards of most POTN shooters but it is very good for me a newby (2 months of BIF). I am very happy with it. I saw this guy out of the corner of my eye while I was having a staring contest with a Blue Heron who only wanted to preen himself for 45 MINUTES!
I swung the 90D and lens up as I jumped up and this was my second frame. I got 12 good frames out of about 25 in the 3 seconds it was in view. This is my best hawk to date (the others being way off and horrible).

I am happy with the 90D and the Sigma's, also find that the 90D works very well with my 100-400 L IS II.

Nice and crisp@@ Thanks!

Request.

Anyone have both 7D2 & 90D?

It would be interesting to see how the 90D manages underexposure compared to the 7D2. If someone's willing, please post one and two stop underexposures corrected in post (DPP may be best) side by side. If really enthusiastic, including the 5D3 in the comparison would be stellar.

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #18934385
have heard here that the 90D and the Sigma 150-600 don't mate well, now my picture from this evening is not up to the high standards of most POTN shooters but it is very good for me a newby (2 months of BIF). I am very happy with it. I saw this guy out of the corner of my eye while I was having a staring contest with a Blue Heron who only wanted to preen himself for 45 MINUTES!
I swung the 90D and lens up as I jumped up and this was my second frame. I got 12 good frames out of about 25 in the 3 seconds it was in view. This is my best hawk to date (the others being way off and horrible).

I am happy with the 90D and the Sigma's, also find that the 90D works very well with my 100-400 L IS II.

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Well done. My last encounter with a hawk, and they are rare, was a comedy of errors on my part. I ended up with no salvageable shots and could only use what I did get for a positive id - it was a red tail. Usually only see one or two a year. Never been this close to one before. He was about 40 feet away eating a kill when I saw him or rather we saw each other. I scrambled to get the camera up and he left in a hurry. Oh well, I enjoyed the experience anyway.

Rod

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #18934385
have heard here that the 90D and the Sigma 150-600 don't mate well, ...

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I would never assume that one bad pairing means a hard and fast rule. Looks like your proving that point right here!

graham121 wrote in post #18934089
Good to know...can I ask which lens/converter combo you were using at F8?

400/4DO II and the 2xIII.

After spending more time with the combo, I wouldn't call the center-pont AF miraculous, but it does hunt less often. Where it seems to improve most is in denser foliage, and where it does't seem to improve as much is when you have a bird jumping around at a distance in thin, leaf-less branches with branches crossing behind the one the bird is on at various depths, but I don't know how much better that could possibly be than the 7D2, with any AF. The spot AF actually seems to be narrower than the 7D2's, and it will focus in deep shade well when depth is simple around the focus point, in places where the 7D2 would mostly hunt. I never found the 7D2's spot to be much narrower than the hollow box center point.

All this again is f/8 optics and center-point in one-shot, and a little bit in AIServo, with all the random wildcards of limited, varying experience.

The AF, using SPOT mode, kept up reasonably well with the Redstart; even at ISO 10000 there was good detail around the eye. Using the center point is comparable to my 7D2.

On a per-pixel basis, the noise is almost exactly like an 80D. I still find the noise profile on the 7D2 more pleasing, but this thing has 60 per cent more pixels. Since the 90D has 27 per cent higher linear resolution than the 7D2, which is 2/3s of what you get on image scale when using a 1.4X extender, I am going to explore using the 100-400 II w/o an extender on the 90D since that will give an f-stop more light, on a per-pixel basis. The overall images may be of higher quality.

ct1co2 wrote in post #18934189
If you are using a UHS-I card, that’s going to account for the slower response most likely. Regarding the joystick, no squeak here.

Why would a given card be slower in a newer body? I noticed the same thing - review image takes longer to come up than the 7D2. I can't just start zooming into it with the magnify button, either; I have to explicitly call it up again with the review button first, or double-tap the screen, but I can't get the knack of getting a double tap to register; it either sees a single tap and makes a single beep or doesn't beep at all much of the time. While I'm loving the superior IQ over the 7D2, operation is a bit crippled, making me hope more for an eventual 7D3. I like being able to cycle through AF point groups with the lever on the 7D2's joystick, without taking functionality away from one of the other controls.

Eric K. wrote in post #18934240
No squeaking on any controller for me - just the standard slight “click” as it spins.

I would have never ever noticed the display delay as I’ve never had image review “ON” but I do have the same 2 seconds or so delay on image preview appearing. But I’m currently shooting with an rather slow UHS-1 Card rated at just 45MB/sec...

I have a 170MB/s read card, and experience the slow delay. It is about 90MB/s writes on my computer.

Eric K. wrote in post #18934249
But those minor differences are nothing: Am going to love the 1.6 crop and the image size and quality as demonstrated by so many of you folks here!

Well, the only value of crop mode with an OVF camera is that the metering is more oriented towards what would be a crop from the FF camera, the viewfinder magnifies that central area more in a crop camera, and there are probably more AF points in that crop area.

A crop camera has no benefit to the maximum IQ in that common sensor area. That only comes with pixel density, which some people seem to have a problem accepting, because they think that you should automatically get a 2MP crop that looks as clean and sharp as a 2MP crop from a sensor with pixels up to 5x the size.

The 90D seems to have better max IQ (less visible noise and much more resolution) than a 1.6x crop from the 1DxII at ISO 51200, but many people will not see that, because they think that the 1DxII is not supposed to zoomed to 200% pixel view, which would make an equitable comparison to the 90D at 100%. Many think of "PQ" (pixel view quality) when they say "IQ" or "the files".

Jeff USN Photog 72-76 wrote in post #18934385
have heard here that the 90D and the Sigma 150-600 don't mate well, now my picture from this evening is not up to the high standards of most POTN shooters but it is very good for me a newby (2 months of BIF). I am very happy with it. I saw this guy out of the corner of my eye while I was having a staring contest with a Blue Heron who only wanted to preen himself for 45 MINUTES!
I swung the 90D and lens up as I jumped up and this was my second frame. I got 12 good frames out of about 25 in the 3 seconds it was in view. This is my best hawk to date (the others being way off and horrible).

I am happy with the 90D and the Sigma's, also find that the 90D works very well with my 100-400 L IS II.

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Even if the AF of the 90D doesn't get the percentages of the more pro cameras, the ones it does nail are going to be better than what you get with other cameras, using the same lens, where you would be cropping more from a larger sensor, or the same crop from an APS-C with better AF.

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18934488
I would never assume that one bad pairing means a hard and fast rule. Looks like your proving that point right here!

Sometimes there are contact issues. If a compromised contact on the body matches up with a compromised contact on the lens, in a chance pairing, you could get poor communication that might not happen when the dirt is on different contacts or only on one side of the connection. Double resistance.

I just started having a problem yesterday like that with a certain combo that I have to look into. I lost lens communication a couple of times with my 90D, Kenko Pro 300 DG 1.4 (hasn't ever had a problem in 15 years of use) and the 400/4 DO II. I would get it back by twisting the lens vs the body back and forth within the small range allowed by the lens locks. I will clean everything at home today, and check if all the spring-loaded pins pop out the way they should.

John Sheehy wrote in post #18934578
Why would a given card be slower in a newer body? I noticed the same thing - review image takes longer to come up than the 7D2. I can't just start zooming into it with the magnify button, either; I have to explicitly call it up again with the review button first, or double-tap the screen, but I can't get the knack of getting a double tap to register; it either sees a single tap and makes a single beep or doesn't beep at all much of the time. While I'm loving the superior IQ over the 7D2, operation is a bit crippled, making me hope more for an eventual 7D3. I like being able to cycle through AF point groups with the lever on the 7D2's joystick, without taking functionality away from one of the other controls.

I was under the impression a UHS-II card would be needed for a quicker response. My experience with the image review mirrors yours. I was using UHS-I card. Anyone finding a different experience with a UHS-II card?

ct1co2 wrote in post #18934602
I was under the impression a UHS-II card would be needed for a quicker response. My experience with the image review mirrors yours. I was using UHS-I card. Anyone finding a different experience with a UHS-II card?

I have both 64 and 128 UHS-II cards. No difference posting to screen over a UHS-I card. Both roughly 2 sec.