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Sep 30, 2019 19:22 |  #1

Hello,

I received my Mk II today and was able to walk outside the office and snap a few shots using the 18-150 lens. I was looking for general behavior and wanted to test the sensor in a couple of areas, so you won't see any AF tracking information here.

I used the optional EVF and I was really impressed with the quality of it in relation to the one I had with the M3 at one time (which I sold).

Here is a simple shot of a tree that I over exposed just to see how it would deal with highlights in post. Before and after. It seems to have a fair bit of room for highlight recovery. This is quick and dirty on a laptop screen so keep that in mind.

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Next is a simple high ISO shot inside my office (ISO 12800). I almost never shoot anywhere near this for my use but was interested in what it would look like due to some of the comments I've seen regarding the 90D. The second shot is a close crop of the first.

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Next is an intentionally dark shot at high ISO, I just wanted to see what the character of the noise was like when pulling up dark areas:

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Then last is a shot of a leaf outside my office. This really wasn't about the sensor, just wanted to see what the bokeh of the 18-50 looked like.

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Overall I think I'm going to really like this and will test it in more depth soon. So far I would say it looks like the sensor performs pretty well.

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Sep 30, 2019 23:20 |  #2

Nice! What software did you use in post?




  
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Oct 01, 2019 03:29 |  #3

Picked up my M6II today as well. Taking a little time to get used to being my first small mirrorless body but so far I am quite impressed! Very intuitive to use (zero need to RTM) camera is very responsive and high ISO files looking pretty good from my quick play so far.

Edit: a couple quick ISO 6400 snaps with the 22mm f/2 edited in Lightroom

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Oct 01, 2019 06:18 |  #4

ra40 wrote in post #18936212 (external link)
Nice! What software did you use in post?


I used Lightroom. I don't believe there are camera specific profiles as of yet but that isn't a big deal. I didn't process these a whole lot, just quick adjustments to see how the files behaved (FAR easier to work with than Xtrans files for noise and sharpening).

The high ISO stuff is interesting to me.

I started in digital with a 5D, and I don't think I ever had a landscape shot that was more than ISO 200 if that. I think I may have gone up to 640 for birds and things like that but I could never get past the noise and losing detail trying to process it out. Now granted I am more experienced now and realize that I was definitely pixel peeping then.

Moving to the 5dII I think I actually had a few landscape shots at 400, which I thought was amazing.

The 5dIV, I have actually used for landscape at 1000 in some situations.

Seeing these kinds of results at 12800 is truly amazing to me. I'm not saying I was use those files for a landscape shot, at least one that would be printed...but they look pretty darn good if you are web posting etc. That's out of a ILC capable camera that fits in the palm of my hand.

I'm flying out today but I'm taking it with me. I might see if I can catch a bird or two and see how the AF tracks, although the biggest problem with it will be the user. I did play around with the touch and drag AF yesterday. I think it is a great concept but I need to play with it more to see how efficient it is. I set it to the lower right corner of the display and used my thumb while looking through the viewfinder.


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Oct 01, 2019 15:08 |  #5

jcothron wrote in post #18936375 (external link)
I did play around with the touch and drag AF yesterday. I think it is a great concept but I need to play with it more to see how efficient it is. I set it to the lower right corner of the display and used my thumb while looking through the viewfinder.

The touch and drag AF seems to work great for me on the M6II but not so much on the R body when I tried it; I think it's to do with the fact that I am left eye dominant so my nose is always touching the screen but with the way the detachable EVF is placed on the M6II that's not an issue.


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Oct 01, 2019 16:29 |  #6

basketballfreak6 wrote in post #18936661 (external link)
The touch and drag AF seems to work great for me on the M6II but not so much on the R body when I tried it; I think it's to do with the fact that I am left eye dominant so my nose is always touching the screen but with the way the detachable EVF is placed on the M6II that's not an issue.

I have the same problem with the R. Glad I'm not the only one. I might switch it to left side touch and drag...


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Oct 01, 2019 17:04 |  #7

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I have the same problem with the R. Glad I'm not the only one. I might switch it to left side touch and drag...


I played around with the touch and drag today sitting in the airport for a few minutes. I changed it to use the area along the bottom of the screen, and also changed it from relative to absolute. That arrangement seems to work really well for me.


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Oct 02, 2019 13:43 |  #8

One use note.

I got out this morning and walked down to the Colorado River before sunrise. Unless I was doing something wrong the evf and rear display wanted nothing to do with dark conditions. Basically a black screen even at 30 sec and iso 25k.

It’s possible I had something messed up although I’m not sure what (yes lens cap was off). The exposure simulation light was blinking as if it just couldn’t do anything.

I do think I tried it out in a dark room and it worked okay, perhaps not dark enough.

I've scanned through the manual and I'm looking for display performance as it would relate to this. I've yet to find it, but still looking.


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Oct 02, 2019 17:28 as a reply to  @ jcothron's post |  #9

Did you have it in manual or with settings that wouldn’t allow proper exposure?


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Did you have it in manual or with settings that wouldn’t allow proper exposure?

I had it in manual. I'm guessing that it was dark enough that the ev -2 bottom of the range for the metering was surpassed although that is hard to believe. I'll try again at some point. I don't recall seeing anything like this on other bodies.


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Oct 02, 2019 17:48 as a reply to  @ jcothron's post |  #11

I think the R does it. The screen is WYSIWYG, so if you are underexposed, that’s what you see.


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I think the R does it. The screen is WYSIWYG, so if you are underexposed, that’s what you see.

Yeah I realize that, but I can’t believe 30 seconds at iso 25600 would have been underexposed like that.

I’m going to play with it again and see if I can reproduce it. I do know 5 minutes later it worked as expected. It was lighter outside but no That Muvh lighter.


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Oct 03, 2019 04:39 |  #13

Couple more shots:

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Oct 04, 2019 22:45 |  #14

Here's a few full resolution samples I took. I converted raws straight to jpgs for these. I think I'm one of the few people not happy with the camera as I have found it more difficult to get perfect focus (than my M6) and the sensor magnifies the ef-m zoom lenses deficiencies. Not too mention I feel like the noise on the mk II might be worse, even at lower ISOs than the mk I. Anyways, here's the few pics I took.

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Oct 04, 2019 23:51 |  #15

You cannot see the lens deficiencies unless you are zooming farther into the image that did on your MKI M6. If you resize the new camera files to the same lower resolution of the older, they should appear identical I would think.


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