Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
Thread started 07 Oct 2019 (Monday) 12:43
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Canon R Worth $2K?

 
Bogino
Senior Member
Avatar
586 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 374
Joined Sep 2011
Location: Southern California
     
Oct 07, 2019 12:43 |  #1

Been giving a lot of thought to buying the Canon R mirrorless. I’ve read good and bad things about it. The bad being mostly because Canon is behind its peers in mirrorless and also it’s Canon first mirrorless camera.

I’m just wondering if I fork out $2K for this now are the odds pretty good that the value of this will crash and burn (i.e. 50%...) a year from now when they introduce newer models and Sony and Co. probably improve upon theirs even more?

I’d rather not switch to another brand for mirrorless if I don’t have to since I like all my EF current lenses and the thought of being able to use those with a simple adapter is appealing.

Thx.


Canon 7D Mark II; Canon 70-300mm "L"; Canon 100mm Macro; Tamron 24-70mm; Tokina 11-16mm 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:14 |  #2

.
As far as what something is worth, I always take one thing into consideration before I buy anything that is costly:

How much will I be able to sell it for in 1 year? . In 2 years? . In 5 years?

I am careful in how I spend my money, and always want to be able to get most of my money back out of something if I fall on hard times or want to switch things up.

I have wanted/needed a 5D Mark 4 for a couple of years now, but I simply can't bring myself to spend $1800 to $2200 for one when I think they will be widely available for just $1000 or $1200 in a couple of years.

When I do finally buy something, I usually feel as though I have gotten a hell of a lot of camera for my money, and have no regrets. . If you spend $2,000 for an EOS R now, will you feel that way? . If the answer is "no", then I suggest not buying one.

Same thing goes for anything we buy in life, really ... cars, groceries, household items. . If you don't feel like you are getting a very good/great value for your money, then it's best not to buy it. . Why would camera gear be any different?


.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
trekgod3
Member
Avatar
166 posts
Likes: 14
Joined Dec 2009
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:26 |  #3

Look at the 6dii....$2k when it came out 2 years ago, just got mine for under 1k a few months ago. They'll all lose value fairly quickly


1dx mark ii, 6d mark ii, Canon 24-70f2.8L ,Canon 70-200f2.8 IS iiL ,Canon 24-105 f4 L, Canon 100-300 f5.6L, Tamron 150-600, Canon 2x extender iii, Speedlite 580ex, Speedlite 430ex , Speedlite 270ex

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
James ­ P
Goldmember
Avatar
1,911 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 247
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:34 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #4

I had a friend to used to say something similar to you. After he died in his sleep one weekend, I always wondered what he was planning or hoping to buy. I'm just sayin'...


1Dx - 5DIII - 40D - Canon 24-70LII, 100L macro, 135L, 16-35L, 70-200 f4 and 100-400L lenses

- "Very good" is the enemy of "great." Sometimes we confuse the two.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:40 |  #5

James P wrote in post #18940156 (external link)
I had a friend who used to say something similar to you. After he died in his sleep one weekend, I always wondered what he was planning or hoping to buy. I'm just sayin'...

.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say, "what he was planning or hoping to buy."

It's not like I have a fair amount of money, and am saving it all up for some big thing. . I have barely any money at all and live hand-to-mouth. . This is why I need to be so very careful with how much I spend for things. . If I am not careful, I will be, quite literally, broke, with no savings whatsoever and no retirement or anything to fall back on.

.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NullMember
Goldmember
3,019 posts
Likes: 1130
Joined Nov 2009
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:50 |  #6
bannedPermanently

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18940146 (external link)
As far as what something is worth, I always take one thing into consideration before I buy anything that is costly:

How much will I be able to sell it for in 1 year? In 2 years? In 5 years?

I am careful in how I spend my money, and always want to be able to get most of my money back out of something if I fall on hard times or want to switch things up.

I have wanted/needed a 5D Mark 4 for a couple of years now, but I simply can't bring myself to spend $1800 to $2200 for one when I think they will be widely available for just $1000 or $1200 in a couple of years.

When I do finally buy something, I usually feel as though I have gotten a hell of a lot of camera for my money, and have no regrets. If you spend $2,000 for an EOS R now, will you feel that way? If the answer is "no", then I suggest not buying one.

Same thing goes for anything we buy in life, really ... cars, groceries, household items. If you don't feel like you are getting a very good/great value for your money, then it's best not to buy it. Why would camera gear be any different?


Blimey your the only person I know that buys groceries with the intention of selling them on in 5 years time.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Chet
showed up to keep the place interesting
44,018 posts
Gallery: 132 photos
Likes: 2462
Joined Sep 2007
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:55 |  #7

So camera's are like alcohol. You don't really need it, and the buzz only lasts a short while. I guess your best off just being a bartender.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
NullMember
Goldmember
3,019 posts
Likes: 1130
Joined Nov 2009
     
Oct 07, 2019 13:59 |  #8
bannedPermanently

Bogino wrote in post #18940133 (external link)
Been giving a lot of thought to buying the Canon R mirrorless. I’ve read good and bad things about it. The bad being mostly because Canon is behind its peers in mirrorless and also it’s Canon first mirrorless camera.

I’m just wondering if I fork out $2K for this now are the odds pretty good that the value of this will crash and burn (i.e. 50%...) a year from now when they introduce newer models and Sony and Co. probably improve upon theirs even more?

I’d rather not switch to another brand for mirrorless if I don’t have to since I like all my EF current lenses and the thought of being able to use those with a simple adapter is appealing.

Thx.

If you want one buy one.
If you don't want one don't buy one.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
Post edited over 4 years ago by Tom Reichner. (2 edits in all)
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:19 |  #9

john crossley wrote in post #18940167 (external link)
If you want one buy one.
If you don't want one don't buy one.

.
Obviously, it is not nearly that simple. . Some people frequently try to simplify things that are essentially very complex decisions. . Doing so doesn't really help those making the decision.

There are dozens - no, thousands - of things that I want right now. If I applied your, "if you want it, buy it" advice, ALL of my money would be gone in a few minutes, and I would have several things that I wanted, but not be able to buy any of the other things that I truly need, or really want.

We all want thousands upon thousands of things. . Deciding which of these things to actually go ahead and buy is a complex decision because so many things are vying for our dollars.

Whenever we buy something, doing so makes it impossible to buy many, many other things that we want, or need. . Hence, there is wisdom in analyzing a potential purchase from every angle possible, and in comparing the pros and cons of the item being considered with those of all of the other items that we want, both similar and dissimilar.


.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RhodyPhotos
Two all the way and a coffee milk.
1,868 posts
Gallery: 22 photos
Likes: 5266
Joined Jun 2014
Location: Rhode Island, USA
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:25 |  #10

Bogino wrote in post #18940133 (external link)
Been giving a lot of thought to buying the Canon R mirrorless. I’ve read good and bad things about it. The bad being mostly because Canon is behind its peers in mirrorless and also it’s Canon first mirrorless camera.

I’m just wondering if I fork out $2K for this now are the odds pretty good that the value of this will crash and burn (i.e. 50%...) a year from now when they introduce newer models and Sony and Co. probably improve upon theirs even more?

I’d rather not switch to another brand for mirrorless if I don’t have to since I like all my EF current lenses and the thought of being able to use those with a simple adapter is appealing.

Thx.


Are you being held back what what you currently own? Do you NEED to upgrade or do you just want to get the latest and greatest? If you can afford it then go for it. But, you can be sure that it will lose at least 50% of its value in a couple of years if not less.

FWIW, I got a 6D refurbished for under $1000 which I thought was a great deal. I now see them for around $500.

Why don't you rent it for a week and then decide if it is worth the expense?


CC always welcome.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
Post edited over 4 years ago by Tom Reichner.
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:29 |  #11

john crossley wrote in post #18940163 (external link)
Blimey your the only person I know that buys groceries with the intention of selling them on in 5 years time.

John,

I believe that you misread my post. Either that, or you were employing humour or sarcasm.

Anyway, to clear up any misunderstanding, this is the way I meant my post to be read:

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18940146 (external link)
How much will I be able to sell it for in 1 year? . In 2 years? . In 5 years?

I am careful in how I spend my money, and always want to be able to get most of my money back out of something if I fall on hard times or want to switch things up.

I have wanted/needed a 5D Mark 4 for a couple of years now, but I simply can't bring myself to spend $1800 to $2200 for one when I think they will be widely available for just $1000 or $1200 in a couple of years.

When I do finally buy something, I usually feel as though I have gotten a hell of a lot of camera for my money, and have no regrets. . If you spend $2,000 for an EOS R now, will you feel that way? . If the answer is "no", then I suggest not buying one.

Same thing goes for anything we buy in life, really ... cars, groceries, household items. . If you don't feel like you are getting a very good/great value for your money, then it's best not to buy it. . Why would camera gear be any different?


.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
artsf
Senior Member
400 posts
Gallery: 73 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 395
Joined Sep 2015
Post edited over 4 years ago by artsf. (2 edits in all)
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:33 |  #12

If you are planning to use it for several years, it is worth it.
I paid near full price for 5div 2.5 years ago and would still buy it today as I see no alternative for my use. I plan to use for at least another 3 years. My most recent purchase is M6 Mark II and it is worth every penny - great video performance blending well with 5div footage. It is the only camera I paid MSRP for, even though I know it will significantly drop in price by Xmas and probably by half in a year. But the footage I took with the camera in the meantime has bigger value to me.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
Post edited over 4 years ago by Tom Reichner. (5 edits in all)
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:38 |  #13

RhodyPhotos wrote in post #18940188 (external link)
.
FWIW, I got a 6D refurbished for under $1000 which I thought was a great deal. I now see them for around $500.
.

Ouch!

I bought my 6D used for $700 when they were going for $800-$850. . That was 22 months ago. . I can't even imagine how you must feel.

It doesn't hurt too badly to see them going for $500 now, because I have used mine a lot in the time that I've had it, and it has been worth the net of $200 that it has cost me thus far. . Perhaps you have gotten more than $500 worth of usage from yours, and don't feel too badly about it, either?

Significant depreciation is going to happen with most things that we purchase, and to some extent we need to accept it. . But when 50% depreciation occurs in just 2 to 3 years, that is hard to swallow, and usually leaves me feeling bad about having made the purchase.


.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RhodyPhotos
Two all the way and a coffee milk.
1,868 posts
Gallery: 22 photos
Likes: 5266
Joined Jun 2014
Location: Rhode Island, USA
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:48 |  #14

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18940198 (external link)
Ouch!

I bought my 6D used for $700 when they were going for $800-$850. . That was 22 months ago. . I can't even imagine how you must feel.

It doesn't hurt too badly to see them going for $500 now, because I have used mine a lot in the time that I've had it, and it has been worth the net of $200 that it has cost me thus far. . Perhaps you have gotten more than $500 worth of usage from yours, and don't feel too badly about it, either?

Significant depreciation is going to happen with most things that we purchase, and to some extent we need to accept it. . But when 50% depreciation occurs in just 2 to 3 years, that is hard to swallow and leaves me feeling bad about having made the purchase.

.



I did get a lot of mileage out of it. And when I did buy it (almost 5-6 years ago) I really needed a camera since my 60D had just died. I sort of feel extremely uncomfortable if I don't have a working camera in my hands! :-)

I knew it would lose a bunch of its value (money-wise), but its still a great camera for my purposes. It has served me very well.


CC always welcome.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Tom ­ Reichner
"That's what I do."
Avatar
17,636 posts
Gallery: 213 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8386
Joined Dec 2008
Location: from Pennsylvania, USA, now in Washington state, USA, road trip back and forth a lot
     
Oct 07, 2019 14:55 |  #15

RhodyPhotos wrote in post #18940213 (external link)
I did get a lot of mileage out of it. And when I did buy it (almost 5-6 years ago) I really needed a camera since my 60D had just died. I sort of feel extremely uncomfortable if I don't have a working camera in my hands! :-)

I knew it would lose a bunch of its value (money-wise), but its still a great camera for my purposes. It has served me very well.

.
50% depreciation spread out over 5 to 6 years is actually really good!

Sounds like you definitely got your money's worth.

If I could buy a refurbed (or used) 5D4 right now at a price that would only halve over the next 5 to 6 years, I would consider that to be a very worthwhile deal.

.


"Your" and "you're" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"They're", "their", and "there" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one.
"Fare" and "fair" are different words with completely different meanings - please use the correct one. The proper expression is "moot point", NOT "mute point".

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

8,023 views & 35 likes for this thread, 27 members have posted to it and it is followed by 17 members.
Canon R Worth $2K?
FORUMS Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is semonsters
1510 guests, 129 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.