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iPhone 11 Pro - best P/S out there?

 
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Oct 08, 2019 11:21 |  #1

So, I just read up on the new iPhone, and I began wondering is it really better than a good quality P/S for the price? For between $599, and $1090 depending on if you have a trade in, you can get a camera that has smallish sensors, but is packed with computation aides to make remarkable images.... with smallish sensors. Or you could spend between those numbers and get a 20 - 24 mpx camera - much better sensor - but almost no computational capabilities. Why can't I get from a camera company a 24 mpx camera, with computation capabilities, for $599. I don't want to shoot images with my phone for my leisure shooting. But the new iPhone is really presenting an almost more pleasing shooting experience, with image editing built right into the device. If apple can afford to put a decent OLED screen on their "phone".... why can't my camera have a screen that is as good? Regardless of type? Why isn't the back of my Sony A7rIII a full width screen with touch controls?

For years, Apple has prepared by using other peoples ideas, and improving on them. The apple 11 does better night vision than the pixel now... who popularized it. It's what they do.

Sony this round added a lot of connectivity functions... to the A9 II. Very important to sport shooters who much have to transmit. But only supports 10 connections. Why? They can't put a directory in there that supports unlimited connections?

Its time for camera makers to steal what Apple, Google, Samsung, have all done. I don't want to buy a phone as my walk around camera... I just don't. Call me old school. But right now, with trade in, I can get an 11 Pro for $599... and it will likely be a better camera that what I can get from traditional camera manufactures. It's nuts. Why doesn't camera companies have trade in/up programs?

The user experience on my Canons and Sonys sucks... please...... steal some technology from the phone peets.




  
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Oct 09, 2019 17:31 |  #2

I learned how to get good pictures SOOC.

Here is one Magnum photographer, popular on insta. He quit from pictures manipulation on his phone. Viewers adore them. He has book with SOOC phone images.

Outside from gearheads forums SOOC images are norm, btw :)


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Oct 28, 2019 07:33 |  #3

I just read that Annie Lebowitz is doing a series of images on the Pixel 4 for Google. It will be interesting to see what she comes up with.




  
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Oct 28, 2019 11:07 |  #4

I just had to update my iPhone SE. I am cheap so I didn't go with the iPhone 11 Pro but with the regular iPhone 11. It has 2 cameras, regular and wide angle, no telephoto. So far, the few photos I have taken with it are pretty good. Maybe better than the SE




  
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Oct 28, 2019 11:36 |  #5

"these go to 11" ;)


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Oct 28, 2019 12:48 |  #6

duckster wrote in post #18951707 (external link)
I just had to update my iPhone SE. I am cheap so I didn't go with the iPhone 11 Pro but with the regular iPhone 11. It has 2 cameras, regular and wide angle, no telephoto. So far, the few photos I have taken with it are pretty good. Maybe better than the SE


That's the direction I've been leaning. I have a 7 plus now - looking to go with the normal 11 myself. I've pretty much moved to my iPhone for all my personal family shooting. Not sure I want to spend the "pro" cost.




  
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Oct 28, 2019 14:58 as a reply to  @ Croasdail's post |  #7

I figured that if I needed zoom, I would be using a "real" camera....




  
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Oct 28, 2019 15:09 |  #8

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #18951720 (external link)
"these go to 11" ;)

I'm thinking most of the folks in this thread are more of the "No! 7 Minute Abs" type.


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Oct 28, 2019 15:15 |  #9

I had to take some shots of a rental that was going to be opening up and took my 7D2 with a tripod and 17-55. When I got there, I thought, what the heck, I will try the new iPhone with the wide angle lens. Considering that I basically needed snapshots, the photos looked pretty good with the existing natural lighting. That is how I generally see my phone camera - for snapshots or if I just don't have one of my cameras with me.




  
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Oct 28, 2019 22:10 |  #10

I got the XS Max pretty happy with it.Really handy.Now the person that can come up with a point and shoot phone that can get a sharp photo of the moon in the landscape will have my full interest.

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Oct 29, 2019 10:51 |  #11

The night mode is pretty impressive on the iPhone 11. Was just messing around with it at home and I am surprised at what it can do. Also the new Deep Fusion process is interesting. I just updated the OS so now it is part of the camera as well. Will have to play around with it more.




  
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Oct 29, 2019 15:44 |  #12

Having seen what the pixel 4 can do with star photography..... this new tools are really exciting. Now can some of them please migrate to our cameras. How is it that the new 1 DX is going to cost 6x what the most expensive iPhone, and yet it will contain none of this capability. Imaging what computational photography could do with large sensor 20 mpx plus images.... come on camera makers. Get a clue.




  
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Oct 29, 2019 15:51 |  #13

Sometime next year I will upgrade to the iPhone 11. And then I'll trade out all my compacts except my Fujifilm 100F.




  
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Nov 11, 2019 08:13 |  #14

From the commercials I've seen on the 11P there is not much difference between wide, normal and tele. (IMHO) Maybe the commercials didn't include all the capability of the tele.


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Nov 11, 2019 16:11 |  #15

To my eye, there is a noticeable difference between standard and wide. I have the 11 so not the tele lens




  
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