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Nov 15, 2019 23:04 |  #1

I tried out a few and they seem to mess up Mac Mail, even when I apply split tunnelling with those that offer it. Split tunnelling basically allows you to exclude an app from going through VPN. After a several days my mail drops out of service and I have to create new passwords and reset two accounts on 5 devices. ExpressVPN has split tunnelling fearer but still causes grief.

I have done a lot of reading and it appears it messes with protocols and I think the keychain. I don't need it at home but I'd like it for travelling and insecure networks using my laptop.

NordVPN caused the same issues. I removed it and a week later (yesterday) my laptop would lose the internet connection after about 5 minutes. I checked the network connections and Nord was there flipping back and forth between the Ethernet connection. Sneaky.

Any experience with VPN? Any suggestions?


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Nov 17, 2019 22:42 |  #2

digital paradise wrote in post #18960858 (external link)
I tried out a few and they seem to mess up Mac Mail, even when I apply split tunnelling with those that offer it. Split tunnelling basically allows you to exclude an app from going through VPN. After a several days my mail drops out of service and I have to create new passwords and reset two accounts on 5 devices. ExpressVPN has split tunnelling fearer but still causes grief.

I have done a lot of reading and it appears it messes with protocols and I think the keychain. I don't need it at home but I'd like it for travelling and insecure networks using my laptop.

NordVPN caused the same issues. I removed it and a week later (yesterday) my laptop would lose the internet connection after about 5 minutes. I checked the network connections and Nord was there flipping back and forth between the Ethernet connection. Sneaky.

Any experience with VPN? Any suggestions?

Good video on why you probably don't need a VPN.

https://youtu.be/WVDQE​oe6ZWY (external link)




  
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Nov 18, 2019 13:28 |  #3

That’s an odd problem. I use PIA and have never see that before on computers or mobile devices. The mail service and port are fully supported on all VPNs as far as I know.

Maybe there’s an issue with your protocol stack on your machine or an issue with the network which is setting off your firewall like maybe it’s detecting some form of tunneling. Have you tried on different machines?




  
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Nov 18, 2019 14:51 |  #4

davinci953 wrote in post #18961879 (external link)
Good video on why you probably don't need a VPN.

https://youtu.be/WVDQE​oe6ZWY (external link)

I got rid of it. I got onto Apple forums and the were very helpful. I''check that video out. Thanks


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That’s an odd problem. I use PIA and have never see that before on computers or mobile devices. The mail service and port are fully supported on all VPNs as far as I know.

Maybe there’s an issue with your protocol stack on your machine or an issue with the network which is setting off your firewall like maybe it’s detecting some form of tunneling. Have you tried on different machines?

Maybe. I don't know. I decided I didn't need it.


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Nov 18, 2019 18:14 |  #6

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I got rid of it. I got onto Apple forums and the were very helpful. I''check that video out. Thanks

I do use 1.1.1.1 to route DNS queries through Cloudflare servers rather than my ISP's servers. It's easy to configure and shouldn't cause any issues.

https://1.1.1.1/dns/ (external link)




  
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I do use 1.1.1.1 to route DNS queries through Cloudflare servers rather than my ISP's servers. It's easy to configure and shouldn't cause any issues.

https://1.1.1.1/dns/ (external link)

Thanks for the link. It was basically what they told me at Apple. The forum members gave me a link which I basically already follow. I set my email to show the entire address and I'm forced to load remote content. A bunch of small things like that.

https://discussions.ap​ple.com/docs/DOC-8841 (external link)


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Nov 19, 2019 01:38 |  #8

Although my primary device isn’t an Apple, I do have PIA installer on my gf’s PC with no issues.

PIA are also considering one of, if not the best VPN providers. Many claim they don’t keep logs but actually do whereas it has been proven many times that PIA don’t keep them.


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Nov 19, 2019 02:03 |  #9

Dlee13 wrote in post #18962526 (external link)
it has been proven many times that PIA don’t keep them.

You can be pretty sure that even if a particular provider makes an effort to remove log files, they will connect to another service that will log everything.
As I'm typing this from sunny New Zealand, at least 16 hops to the POTN server, each of which will have a log of my firewall's source I/P address etc.

From my perspective, the only reason to use a vendor VPN is to get around some geo-blocked web content, as any imaginary concept of security is purely that.


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Nov 19, 2019 23:56 |  #10

More great info. Thanks everyone.


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