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Dropped my sigma 150-600 sport, now have 2100 insurance money. What to buy?

 
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Dec 31, 2019 11:48 |  #1

So my question is, should I replace it with the same lens or go with the 60-600 sport or maybe just go with the C version or something different altogether? I do like the weather sealing though as I have been caught in the rain multiple times and no issues. Both the 150-600 and the 60-600 are on sale right now all though not sure how long the sale lasts. I won't have my check they said until 7-10 days. I am not sure how the two lenses compare to each other as far as image quality. I have been happy with my 150-600. It's no prime but I get nice stuff with it.




  
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Dec 31, 2019 11:51 |  #2

Do you find yourself using the entire focal range? If not, you could look into a prime lens at the length you shoot at most.


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Dec 31, 2019 12:35 |  #3

If you don't want to replace it with the same lens, I would consider a used Canon 300/2.8 and a teleconverter.


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Dec 31, 2019 12:56 |  #4

I do use the whole focal range at times and have gotten shots I never would have gotten if I had a 600 prime. But most of the time it is at 600 or just under. A 600 prime is way out of my budget. I would give up some zoom with a 300 and tele but most likely better image quality. I have a 100-400 II and I tried it with the version 3 tele and I just couldn't get the image quality that I got with my 150-600 and it got worse in low light which is where I probably shoot most because I like to shoot wildlife. I am using a 5D4 for my camera and sometimes my 7d2.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 07:51 |  #5

I ended up buying the 60- 600 sigma sport. That's a big range. I hope I didn't make a mistake.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 07:55 |  #6

I have not read anything really glowing about the 60-600 lens, but please share your experiences after you have had time with the lens.

I have both the 150-600 and 100-400II with III TCs and have found them to be quite close in IQ to the point I keep thinking about getting rid of the Sigma. However, I can get 840mm and 1200mm with the Sigma that I cannot with the 100-400, so I keep it for that aspect alone.


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Jan 07, 2020 08:00 |  #7

Nascar Nut wrote in post #18987670 (external link)
I ended up buying the 60- 600 sigma sport. That's a big range. I hope I didn't make a mistake.

If there is any money left over, get yourself a really good strap of some sort. I remember that back in July, your 5DIV fell while on a tripod.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 08:04 |  #8

I figure I have 30 days to use it and keep it or send it back to B&H. I found mixed reviews but not many said it was worse then the 150-600 and i was happy with that lens as i can't afford a big prime lens. My 150-600 was used mostly at 600 but I had a number of times when 150 wasn't wide enough to capture the image the way I wanted. I will post back my thoughts after I get some use with it.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 08:07 |  #9

John from PA wrote in post #18987676 (external link)
If there is any money left over, get yourself a really good strap of some sort. I remember that back in July, your 5DIV fell while on a tripod.

Yes it did. You have good memory. I have never damaged any of my gear before and now have had two instances in the past year. I have already been looking at straps as well as a new tripod.




  
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I have not read anything really glowing about the 60-600 lens, but please share your experiences after you have had time with the lens.

I have both the 150-600 and 100-400II with III TCs and have found them to be quite close in IQ to the point I keep thinking about getting rid of the Sigma. However, I can get 840mm and 1200mm with the Sigma that I cannot with the 100-400, so I keep it for that aspect alone.

I tried the 100-400 ll and lll Tc and with wildlife be evening and early morning mostly I just couldn't get as good of results as my sigma. I was always having to turn up the iso to get enough shutter speed due to low light. My 100-400 is my hiking and kayaking lens. One thing though the 100-400ll is faster and more accurate at focus.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 08:27 |  #11

Can't wait to see your thoughts on the 60-600. The 50-500 OS was a very good lens, and I had high hopes for the 60-600.

Here is the 100-400 with 2x on the M50, which would have required the 1.4xIII on the Sigma. I also did side by side testing of the 100-400 and 1.4x next to the Sigma in the past, and determined that they were very nearly identical, which almost led to the sale of the Sigma.

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Can't wait to see your thoughts on the 60-600. The 50-500 OS was a very good lens, and I had high hopes for the 60-600.

Here is the 100-400 with 2x on the M50, which would have required the 1.4xIII on the Sigma. I also did side by side testing of the 100-400 and 1.4x next to the Sigma in the past, and determined that they were very nearly identical, which almost led to the sale of the Sigma.

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Very nice! I have read plenty of threads from people with the same thoughts or even better then the sigma. I just couldn't get it with mine. In good light I got nice images but when the sun was setting my sigma one out. So both lenses have a place in my bag. I wish canon would make a 150-600. They are missing out.




  
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I do use the whole focal range at times and have gotten shots I never would have gotten if I had a 600 prime. But most of the time it is at 600 or just under. A 600 prime is way out of my budget. I would give up some zoom with a 300 and tele but most likely better image quality. I have a 100-400 II and I tried it with the version 3 tele and I just couldn't get the image quality that I got with my 150-600 and it got worse in low light which is where I probably shoot most because I like to shoot wildlife. I am using a 5D4 for my camera and sometimes my 7d2.

Just remember that the shorter zoom range is optically going to be better across its range than a long zoom range. 4:1 zoom (150-600) will be better than 10:1 zoom (60-600).

You sacrifice more in having a one-lens solution to cover wide range of FL. Notice how lens tests who conduct objective tests of performance on lenses generally do not bother to test the superzooms?! A review of superzoom bridge cameras summarizes

"But if you like to pore over every fine detail of your images at 100 percent magnification, you’ll be disappointed every time; buy an affordable mirrorless camera instead. With a superzoom, you’re paying for the convenience of leaving a bunch of lenses at home, not for pro-level image quality."

Admittedly, testers were generally impressed with the 10:1 zoom's performance, exceeding the expectations most had of superzoom based particularly upon historic patterns of performance.

Perhaps you can cancel the order for 60-600 and tell the retailer you changed your mind before it arrives.
Then you could bring along a 24-105mm to complement the 150-600mm...you would not mist the 105mm - 150mm 'gap' much at all. Or a 70-200mm so there is overlap with the 150-600mm to reduce the amount of lens changing.


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Just remember that the shorter zoom range is optically going to be better across its range than a long zoom range. 4:1 zoom (150-600) will be better than 10:1 zoom (60-600).

You sacrifice more in having a one-lens solution to cover wide range of FL. Notice how lens tests who conduct objective tests of performance on lenses generally do not bother to test the superzooms?! A review of superzoom bridge cameras summarizes

"But if you like to pore over every fine detail of your images at 100 percent magnification, you’ll be disappointed every time; buy an affordable mirrorless camera instead. With a superzoom, you’re paying for the convenience of leaving a bunch of lenses at home, not for pro-level image quality."

Admittedly, testers were generally impressed with the 10:1 zoom's performance, exceeding the expectations most had of superzoom based particularly upon historic patterns of performance.

Perhaps you can cancel the order for 60-600 and tell the retailer you changed your mind before it arrives.
Then you could bring along a 24-105mm to complement the 150-600mm...you would not mist the 105mm - 150mm 'gap' much at all. Or a 70-200mm so there is overlap with the 150-600mm to reduce the amount of lens changing.

Unfortunately I received the lens a couple of days ago from B&H. So I am going to try it out and see. I didn't find a whole lot of reviews on this lens but most of the ones I did find said it was equal to the 150-600 at 600mm which is most important to me. I figured maybe new technology in the lens. I am sure I made the wrong choice as that is how my luck goes.




  
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Jan 07, 2020 11:46 |  #15

I have seen that that the wide side of the lens is a bit soft and fringing is very pronounced. But you don't have 60 on the 150-600 so perhaps that is forgivable.


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