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Jan 02, 2020 17:45 |  #1

Hello,

I'm searching for a camera for my daughter. What does the ”i” represent?

Examples
T5 and T5i
T6 and T6i
T7 and T7i


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Jan 02, 2020 17:57 |  #2

It appears it's just a naming convention and nothing more.

https://community.usa.​canon.com …s-and-letters/td-p/133963 (external link)




  
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Jan 02, 2020 18:12 |  #3

Like everything that happened after the "i-Mac" and "ipod", "i" just became one of the go to letters that needed to be added to cool products.


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Jan 02, 2020 18:14 as a reply to  @ Bodyslide's post |  #4

Good info! Thanks,


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Jan 02, 2020 18:38 |  #5

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Like everything that happened after the "i-Mac" and "ipod", "i" just became one of the go to letters that needed to be added to cool products.
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It has been my understanding that in the case of Apple products, "i" means "interactive". . It's not just thrown in there for marketing - it actually stands for something.

Now when it comes to the way Canon names the US versions of its Rebel series, I have no idea if the "i" actually stands for anything or not.

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Jan 02, 2020 19:06 as a reply to  @ Tom Reichner's post |  #6

Actually, there are video archives of Steve Jobs introducing the iMac (the first "i" product)....which for it and phone meant "internet" (IE easy marriage between device and internet). To cover bases, he also said i stood for: internet, individual, instruct, inform, inspire. I suppose it's always easy to figure out more words once you've picked one letter:-)

Here's what the 'i' in iPhone means (external link)

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Jan 02, 2020 19:17 |  #7

"i" meant whatever Apple needed it to, I don't think Canon has ever stated but the i models are improved over the version with the same name sans "i" aren't they?


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Jan 02, 2020 19:22 |  #8

Better than Kiss. :lol:


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Jan 02, 2020 21:55 |  #9

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18985126 (external link)
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It has been my understanding that in the case of Apple products, "i" means "interactive". . It's not just thrown in there for marketing - it actually stands for something.

Now when it comes to the way Canon names the US versions of its Rebel series, I have no idea if the "i" actually stands for anything or not.

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I think you're giving Apple's marketing department too much credit.




  
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Jan 02, 2020 23:51 |  #10

Around most of the world Canon bodies have been identified by a code as follows:

Canon EOS #### D (e.g. 1200d, 1300D) is the lowest-end consumer model, thus low spec'd, cheaper materials, fewer controls etc.
Canon EOS ###D (e.g. 750D, 800D), are consumer models with better specification and construction.
Canon EOS ##D (e.g. 70D, 80D) are 'prosumer' models, with better construction (often environmentally sealed), better focusing, controls and customization
Canon EOS #DMk# (1D, 5DMkIV, 6DMkII) are professional-grade, full-frame models while the 7DMk I and II are the professional APS-C models: these latter two are likely the last of their line as the 90D has usurped the features of the brand (except for focus tracking - the 7DII is still best there).

For Canon camera bodies marketed in North America, their marketing department chose to go with the Rebel branding (associated with a marketing project based on the great tennis rebel Andrei Agassi) for the ####D and ##D series. To differentiate the lowest end ####D consumer models from the ###D ones the latter have an i added to their nomenclature. Thus the Rebel T6 is the same as the Canon 1300D, while the Rebel T6i is the same as the 750D.

Just to confuse the issue further, they have a third series of brands called Kiss, equivalent to the ###D bodies, for parts of Asia/

So, if you want the cheapest solution then get the model without the i. The current models are Rebel T7 (EOS 2000D) or the T7i (EOS 800D or Kiss X9i) that are definitely a step up from the lower end units.


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Jan 03, 2020 11:00 |  #11

Tronhard wrote in post #18985274 (external link)
Around most of the world Canon bodies have been identified by a code as follows:

Canon EOS #### D (e.g. 1200d, 1300D) is the lowest-end consumer model, thus low spec'd, cheaper materials, fewer controls etc.
Canon EOS ###D (e.g. 750D, 800D), are consumer models with better specification and construction.
Canon EOS ##D (e.g. 70D, 80D) are 'prosumer' models, with better construction (often environmentally sealed), better focusing, controls and customization
Canon EOS #DMk# (1D, 5DMkIV, 6DMkII) are professional-grade, full-frame models while the 7DMk I and II are the professional APS-C models: these latter two are likely the last of their line as the 90D has usurped the features of the brand (except for focus tracking - the 7DII is still best there).

For Canon camera bodies marketed in North America, their marketing department chose to go with the Rebel branding (associated with a marketing project based on the great tennis rebel Andrei Agassi) for the ####D and ##D series. To differentiate the lowest end ####D consumer models from the ###D ones the latter have an i added to their nomenclature. Thus the Rebel T6 is the same as the Canon 1300D, while the Rebel T6i is the same as the 750D.

Just to confuse the issue further, they have a third series of brands called Kiss, equivalent to the ###D bodies, for parts of Asia/

So, if you want the cheapest solution then get the model without the i. The current models are Rebel T7 (EOS 2000D) or the T7i (EOS 800D or Kiss X9i) that are definitely a step up from the lower end units.

This is ALMOST the best answer here, (which I had never realized, since I don't spend much time with "Rebels") but the actual answer is buried in so far toward the end that I almost missed it! :)

If I may paraphrase your very astute answer;


The "i" is used in the States with it's "Rebel" series to differentiate the XXXD line from the XXXXD lines (300D-800D vs. 1000D-2000D)
ie: a Rebel T7i = 800D, whereas as a Rebel T7 = 2000D

The difference between the T7i and the T7 are body size, battery size, tilty screen on the "i" etc.


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Jan 03, 2020 11:17 |  #12

Tom Reichner wrote in post #18985126 (external link)
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It has been my understanding that in the case of Apple products, "i" means "interactive". . It's not just thrown in there for marketing - it actually stands for something.

Now when it comes to the way Canon names the US versions of its Rebel series, I have no idea if the "i" actually stands for anything or not.

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Just to be clear, I was saying the worlds adoption of the letter "I" after Apple used it, IS just thrown in there for marketing. I did not say that Apple did not have a reason for it. It's all the also-rans (also I-Rans?) that popped up immediately after with various devices with "i" added. Even entire brand names like "iHome", "iRiver" that were clearly just trying to capitalize on and be "Apple Cool". So through out all of the 2000's and into the 2010's more so, but even today, there has been branding after branding that adopted "i" for no apparent reason other than it is part of the vernacular now.

One could argue that Apples stole the "i" from BMW's at the time coolest car ever, the 320i, but I thinks that's a reach. ;)

I have noticed this with letter pairs many times in the past, it certainly did not start with the letter "i"

Some examples, "L", "T", and "X" (note canon is using all three!!!)
Also number sets with "90" in them.
My favorite laptop, pair of speakers, and followspot, all happen to needlessly and without any reflection of their specs share the same such use of letters and numbers,

- Fujitsu 690TX (266Mhz, so nothing "690" about that model)
- A.D.S. L 1290 (dual 8" woofers , 2" midrange dome and 1" tweeter, so again, nothing "12" or "90" about it)
- Lycian 1290 XLT ( 2000watt xenon lamp, so X for Xenon, but LT and 1 and 90 are meaningless)


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Jan 03, 2020 11:45 as a reply to  @ CyberDyneSystems's post |  #13

Since the OP listed Canon models I stayed with that group, and I thought it was worth explaining the whole convoluted system! :)

I find Canon's camera ID system for Rebels in North America confusing. If they really wanted to differentiate North American product from others (as I was advised is the case), then they could have called the cameras Rebel ###D or Rebel ####D. Almost every time I want to know what model a NA camera is equivalent to one elsewhere, I have to look it up! :-|

And don't even start me on the EOS M body ID's...


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Jan 03, 2020 12:22 |  #14

Just a post around the web I came up with this (external link) slide from 1998. Seems Jobs wanted the "i" to stand for just about anything that made his product sound cool that started with an "i". :)


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Jan 27, 2020 09:09 |  #15

jwm9289 wrote in post #18985082 (external link)
Hello,

I'm searching for a camera for my daughter. What does the ”i” represent?

Examples
T5 and T5i
T6 and T6i
T7 and T7i

I would recommend getting the 40D or 50D as they're easier to operate. Those line of camera you mentioned is harder to operate, very inconvenience. The 40D or 50D have aged but the architecture was based on professional line like 5D and 1D, the later models (e.g. 60D+) have a rebel-mixed design.

I've used T1i and T2i about 10yrs ago along w/ 5Dii and 7D and they're not very intuitive.




  
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