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Jan 13, 2020 20:05 |  #1

Are there any other strobes that can recycle as quickly as the camera? Let's say: at least 7fps. I found the one below, but it's quite expensive.

https://www.rotolight.​com …ova-pro-2-bi-colour-110o/ (external link)


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Jan 13, 2020 21:18 |  #2

Rotolight makes LED-based lighting and overdriving the LEDs does not qualify as flash. Strobe products from respectable manufacturers can reach 10-20 fps easily but not at full energy setting. You can also achieve high frame rates with a Speedlight, again with limits to the light quantity and number of consecutive frames.


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Jan 13, 2020 21:21 |  #3

At full power? Your gonna' need something with a large battery pack. Probably best to rent unless you have a studio and use them quite often for paid work... or you're rich.


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Jan 13, 2020 22:46 |  #4

The Rotolight is indeed unique in its ability to be a continuous light source (TV video lighting) and as a 'flash' unit with HSS. The reality of its capability can be found in user comments https://www.dpreview.c​om …put-and-unrivaled-battery (external link):

"For those of you wondering about the power of these lights in flash mode the guide number of these is 8 at ISO 100. For comparison, a Metz 60 AF-1 flash that can be mounted on the top of a camera has a guide number of 43 at ISO 100. At four meters you will be using f/2 with the Rotolight, whilst the Metz will allow you to use f/11. All of the portraits shown in the Rotolight adverts show a depth of field that scarcely reaches to the subjects ears. This is not so much because the photographer wanted that effect, but because the Rotolight did not give enough light to enable the use of a smaller f/stop.

I use Rotolights for video production, but I haven't even bothered buying the cables to use them as flash units."

Another comment says:

"The Neo 2 in flash mode (using batteries) is 4 stops less powerful than an Elinchrom D-Lite RX One on it’s lowest setting (6 Ws). At 0.37 Ws it is not remotely close to a Speedlite. Useful for use with fast primes but not bright enough for much else. The Anova Pro 2 looks to be a little more than 5 times as powerful as the Neo 2 putting it at 12Ws. Useful but no where close to a strobe."

Another comment summarizes well: "Thank you. In all the marketing mumbo jumbo, that's the info I was looking for: Strobe output equivalency. At those values its no wonder why there isn't any recycle time."


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Jan 13, 2020 22:50 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #18991671 (external link)
The Rotolight is indeed unique in its ability to be a continuous light source (TV video lighting) and as a 'flash' unit with HSS. The reality of its capability can be found in user comments https://www.dpreview.c​om …put-and-unrivaled-battery (external link):

"For those of you wondering about the power of these lights in flash mode the guide number of these is 8 at ISO 100. For comparison, a Metz 60 AF-1 flash that can be mounted on the top of a camera has a guide number of 43 at ISO 100. At four meters you will be using f/2 with the Rotolight, whilst the Metz will allow you to use f/11. All of the portraits shown in the Rotolight adverts show a depth of field that scarcely reaches to the subjects ears. This is not so much because the photographer wanted that effect, but because the Rotolight did not give enough light to enable the use of a smaller f/stop.

I use Rotolights for video production, but I haven't even bothered buying the cables to use them as flash units."

Another comment says:

"The Neo 2 in flash mode (using batteries) is 4 stops less powerful than an Elinchrom D-Lite RX One on it’s lowest setting (6 Ws). At 0.37 Ws it is not remotely close to a Speedlite. Useful for use with fast primes but not bright enough for much else. The Anova Pro 2 looks to be a little more than 5 times as powerful as the Neo 2 putting it at 12Ws. Useful but no where close to a strobe."

Another comment summarizes well: "Thank you. In all the marketing mumbo jumbo, that's the info I was looking for: Strobe output equivalency. At those values its no wonder why there isn't any recycle time."

Yikes! Very useful information.


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Jan 14, 2020 01:46 |  #6

Wilt wrote in post #18991671 (external link)
The Rotolight is indeed unique in its ability to be a continuous light source (TV video lighting) and as a 'flash' unit with HSS. The reality of its capability can be found in user comments https://www.dpreview.c​om …put-and-unrivaled-battery (external link):

"For those of you wondering about the power of these lights in flash mode the guide number of these is 8 at ISO 100. For comparison, a Metz 60 AF-1 flash that can be mounted on the top of a camera has a guide number of 43 at ISO 100. At four meters you will be using f/2 with the Rotolight, whilst the Metz will allow you to use f/11. All of the portraits shown in the Rotolight adverts show a depth of field that scarcely reaches to the subjects ears. This is not so much because the photographer wanted that effect, but because the Rotolight did not give enough light to enable the use of a smaller f/stop.

I use Rotolights for video production, but I haven't even bothered buying the cables to use them as flash units."

Another comment says:

"The Neo 2 in flash mode (using batteries) is 4 stops less powerful than an Elinchrom D-Lite RX One on it’s lowest setting (6 Ws). At 0.37 Ws it is not remotely close to a Speedlite. Useful for use with fast primes but not bright enough for much else. The Anova Pro 2 looks to be a little more than 5 times as powerful as the Neo 2 putting it at 12Ws. Useful but no where close to a strobe."

Another comment summarizes well: "Thank you. In all the marketing mumbo jumbo, that's the info I was looking for: Strobe output equivalency. At those values its no wonder why there isn't any recycle time."

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Jan 14, 2020 04:09 |  #7

When I was at the peak of strobist G.A.S, I came up to the idea of buying 8 yongnuo cheap flash so that it can catch up my Canon 1d4 10 fps :)
They all will be fired at lower power, just as RicoTudor said.
But it never came to fruition.




  
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Jan 14, 2020 04:14 |  #8

Godox or Pocketwizard have feature of alternating of firing strobes up to 4 sequence (cmiiw). So on first shutter it will fire group 1, next shutter group 2, etc.
Maybe Shom (username abbadon31) knows it better.




  
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Jan 14, 2020 05:11 |  #9

icor1031 wrote in post #18991601 (external link)
Are there any other strobes that can recycle as quickly as the camera? Let's say: at least 7fps. I found the one below, but it's quite expensive.

It all depends on the power level, I have matched 9 frames per second using something like 1/16 power on a Godox AD600PRO

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