Will there be a 7D3 or 5DV?

We had few threads asking these questions. Based on the lenses being released and the LV AF shown in this video I don't think we will see them. The 1DX III will more than likely be the last mirrored camera, in that category. Not sure about the Rebel line.

https://www.youtube.co​m …xPmXuGGY&featur​e=emb_logo

Based on many of Canon's comments over the past two years, I have been convinced there won't be a 5d or 7d successor. The only reason would be to get the OVF crowd something new.

Someone asked at another site why they even bothered putting a mirror in the 1DX III. Probably not to scare off the old timers. Olympics are around the corner so that my be valid since a new 1DX is released just before them. The 2020 decade will be a whole new era just like 2000.

7D3 - no
5Dv - still possible until the official announcement and hands-on of R5

I shot on 7D for a decade and just upgraded to 7Dii, realized that 7D3 will not come.

I would hate to see the end of the mirrored bodies. The 5D4 has every feature and ability I could ask for. I don't know what Canon could add to a 5D5 body to get me to upgrade. Maybe better 4K video with no crop, but I only shoot 1080 now and it has decent enough quality.

No 7D3 & NO 5D5

and everyone keeps saying 1Dx3 is last DSLR

If the truth was known, the 1Dx2 was the last one as well as the 5D4

The 1Dx3 looks to be able to be used as a mirrorless and a DSLR at the same time. Looks at the 20 FPs electronic shutter and complete silent modes......whats up with that

1Dx3 is a Hybrid camera......Its new technology..... with an EF Mount

Now what

My answer is who the heck knows

Everything is going to be answered when the R5 gets released and we see how much of this 1Dx3 technology and new AF systems fall to Canons new Mirrorless line ups......Just look at how good the Facial is in a base case 1 setting on the 1Dx3......this can be tweaked with case 2-4 so that the camera does not miss

How much falls to the R mounts and does it work in the dark

Major questions to be answered

Im hopeful like everyone else and I hope the R5 stays under 4K

If canon would have added the EVF slot to the back of the hot flash shoe, and then sold an EVF in addition to the 1DX3, I am sure it would sell like hotcakes. Not sure what that cost would have been for adding that to the 1DX3, but if it was available, and you bought the EVF module, and attach it, it would automatically go into liveview DPAF mode with the mirror up, and you would have truly the best of both worlds.

Want OVF? Just don't use the EVF. Want mirrorless? Pop on the EVF.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19011777
If canon would have added the EVF slot to the back of the hot flash shoe, and then sold an EVF in addition to the 1DX3, I am sure it would sell like hotcakes. Not sure what that cost would have been for adding that to the 1DX3, but if it was available, and you bought the EVF module, and attach it, it would automatically go into liveview DPAF mode with the mirror up, and you would have truly the best of both worlds.

Want OVF? Just don't use the EVF. Want mirrorless? Pop on the EVF.

Yup

its a hybrid camera

Now whats going into the R5?

honestly- My guess....AF is close to a 1Dx3 and it works in poor light, its gonna cost 4500.00, It has M raw and Canon will own the market.....time for everyone else to play catch up

cristphoto wrote in post #19011747
I would hate to see the end of the mirrored bodies...

I lean the other way. Why not eliminate the mirror? You eliminate some noise, mirror slap, vibration, and mechanical moving pieces.

Many have issues with an EVF, it causes several folks eye strain and headaches. Well-documented on this front...

There has to be some EVF advancement before you can just dump the OVF. Some folks are also saying that an optical EVF shows a 3D setting because it is optical, where an EVF tries to show a 3D scene on a 2D screen, and that doesn't always translate well when shooting pictures.

There are a couple of hurdles yet.

Yes now that I’m travelling and shooting all types of scenes and conditions the EVF is more challenging. At this point I’d prefer the OVF that I’m used to but I really like mirrorless for it’s other offerings. Far more. I brought my 7D2 but still have not attached a lens to it.

If I was a working pro I’m sure my evaluation would be different.

digital paradise wrote in post #19011836
Yes now that I’m travelling and shooting all types of scenes and conditions the EVF is more challenging. At this point I’d prefer the OVF that I’m used to but I really like mirrorless for it’s other offerings. Far more. I brought my 7D2 but still have not attached a lens to it.

If I was a working pro I’m sure my evaluation would be different.

Another reason for OVF over EVF (above, posts 10, 11), to add to the existing list...

• low light focusing handicap (hunting) with mirrorless AF
  
• inability to use IR flash focus aid with mirrorless AF
  
• battery consumption is inherently greater (to power EVF)
  
• viewfinder lag inherent to 1/60 or 1/120 refresh rate
  

Some counter points...

Actually low light focusing is easier with mirrorless EVF. Both being able to see the scene to put an AF point on what you want, or manually focusing.

Battery life seems to be about the same on my R as it is with my 5d4.

EVF is approaching 1/20ms on good advanced EVF/mirrorless bodies.

Once EVF are 4k or better with around 1/10ms refresh with lower power consumption, the disadvantages shrink greatly. I suspect we are about 3 years from this type of advancement.

I’ll bet no one knows my gripes about MFA The best results are at location. I have tested MFA at different distances and had different results. Even with MFA, or not there is variation due to the mirror assembly.

I have read a few posts where people have said their lenses seem to have woken up. I know no matter what distance my subject is I’m getting accurate focus. I’m OK with the MLIC growing pains.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19011931
Some counter points...

Actually low light focusing is easier with mirrorless EVF. Both being able to see the scene to put an AF point on what you want, or manually focusing.

The issue for some folks is the instantaneous acquisition of focus, reliance upon the speed of AF. Many will tell you the AF on the mirrorless hunts in low light, and since IR focus aids don't work, during wedding receptions they cannot grab focus, but miss shots. So they pick of the dSLR so they can use the IR focus assistance of the flash unit.
Using the more brightly lit view of the scene on EVF, and reliance upon MF even with focus peaking is still a bit too slow, compared to AF.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19011931
Battery life seems to be about the same on my R as it is with my 5d4.

Good to hear battery life is pretty good. If a camera did not rely upon EVF at all, and it was otherwise similarly frugal with battery power, you could get even MORE shots with it...that is what I meant by inherent advantage of a camera not reliant upon EVF,

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19011931
EVF is approaching 1/20ms on good advanced EVF/mirrorless bodies
Once EVF are 4k or better with around 1/10ms refresh with lower power consumption, the disadvantages shrink greatly. I suspect we are about 3 years from this type of advancement.

20ms as a 'refresh time' is still only 50 fps, 10ms as a refresh time is still only 100 fps...I suggest double checking what you might have misquoted.
Even the slowest EVF today is 60 fps refresh of the screen. The fastest EVF refresh rate today is currently 120fps, as it is in the Sony A9.