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Printer choice. Canon Pro-1000 Or Epson P800?

 
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Feb 19, 2020 16:03 |  #1

After more than a decade my Epson SP1900 photo printer has died. I'm considering two as a replacement. The Canon Pro-1000 or the Epson C800. I see some feedback on the forum, mostly from several years ago on these two printers. Any more recent opinions? In particular I notice that the Canon color space appears larger overall, but the Epson appears to have more in the very important dark green colors. Any opinions here? I'm leaning to the Canon to avoid the head clogging concerns. For those who have the Canon, how does it do on dark green colors, for example, shaded leaves or coniferous trees?

Appreceiate the help and advice. Steve


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Feb 19, 2020 18:36 |  #2

I've got the P800 and it works great. Been using it off and on for five years now.



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Feb 19, 2020 23:39 |  #3

Go with whichever one make you feel better.

Seriously, all the printers are so close in quality, I would not worry about it. I really doubt anyone would really be able to tell 2 prints apart even if they were side-by-side.

If you think the Canon might be less prone to clogging, go for that. I would go for features and ink refill-ability over colorspaces, dpi and that stuff. That was not the case 10-15 years ago and maybe if you are buying a 48" printer it makes a difference.

I have an 'old' 3880 and if I send something off to be printed (say Adorama Pix), I can't see that it is higher quality.

Spending some time finding nice paper makes more difference, and the particular printer and profiles will likely also make more difference. Perhaps pick the canon and try to find a paper/profile that does well with the greens? Might take more time and ink, but I think might be more worthwhile.


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Feb 20, 2020 07:14 |  #4

downhillonwater wrote in post #19012611 (external link)
After more than a decade my Epson SP1900 photo printer has died. I'm considering two as a replacement. The Canon Pro-1000 or the Epson C800. I see some feedback on the forum, mostly from several years ago on these two printers. Any more recent opinions? In particular I notice that the Canon color space appears larger overall, but the Epson appears to have more in the very important dark green colors. Any opinions here? I'm leaning to the Canon to avoid the head clogging concerns. For those who have the Canon, how does it do on dark green colors, for example, shaded leaves or coniferous trees?

Appreceiate the help and advice. Steve

Canons don't clog because they do a lot of head cleaning, and so "waste" a lot of ink. TANSTAAFL.

There seems to be a lot more user support for Canon printers (such as the invaluable Jose "JTOOLMAN" Rodriguez --see his YouTube videos. Although he owns and speaks of Epsons, he spends more time on Canons).


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Mar 21, 2020 10:13 as a reply to  @ ejenner's post |  #5

As one who prints infrequently I made a mistake buying an Epson 7900, it required frequent Nozzle Cleans which was exasperating. I was pretty sure I "never wanted another Epson." Against my better judgement I let the rep convince me to replace it with the P800 (after I decided to go smaller). I'm glad I got the P800, it almost never requires a clean even though I often go weeks without turning it on. I think I read in recent days that Epson is about to announce the replacement models and I think the P800 will be replaced by the P900 (?) which requires no black switching.




  
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Mar 21, 2020 11:20 |  #6

RDKirk wrote in post #19012970 (external link)
Canons don't clog because they do a lot of head cleaning, and so "waste" a lot of ink. TANSTAAFL.

There seems to be a lot more user support for Canon printers (such as the invaluable Jose "JTOOLMAN" Rodriguez --see his YouTube videos. Although he owns and speaks of Epsons, he spends more time on Canons).


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As one who prints infrequently I made a mistake buying an Epson 7900, it required frequent Nozzle Cleans which was exasperating. I was pretty sure I "never wanted another Epson." Against my better judgement I let the rep convince me to replace it with the P800 (after I decided to go smaller). I'm glad I got the P800, it almost never requires a clean even though I often go weeks without turning it on. I think I read in recent days that Epson is about to announce the replacement models and I think the P800 will be replaced by the P900 (?) which requires no black switching.

IOW, when you use pigment ink printers infrequently, you HAVE TO perform Nozzle Cleans which waste ink...you have that done automatically with a Canon, while you have to get frustrated with a clog and then manually initiate a Nozzle Clean with an Epson (7900, but not P900). Is that right? In both cases, some ink is wasted.


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Mar 22, 2020 07:33 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #7

1--yes, ink is "wasted" by both brands as a way to avoid clogs
2--no, the P800 does not clog often at all. If you search forums I think you will find that users with the P800 rarely require nozzle cleans (apparently the P800 is about to be replaced by the new P900)




  
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Mar 24, 2020 08:29 |  #8

My seven year old Canon PRO-10 Pigment printer sat idle for almost a year during construction two years ago.
Turned it on. Did a nozzle check to see how bad....... spot on.
Just used it yesterday.
As a Canon shooter, the rebates offered in 2013 were enticing.
Like choosing an SLR way back. Canon, Minolta or Nikon. They were all good.
I chose Canon.
Same with the two printers, they are both good choices.


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Mar 24, 2020 15:58 |  #9

To help in the decision process, there is a $200 rebate on the Canon Pro1000 until March 31st.

See https://shop.usa.canon​.com …-form-Feb-Mar-2020-LR.pdf (external link)




  
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Mar 24, 2020 16:17 |  #10

I went with the P800 for the larger 80ml ink tanks. More cost of front but lower cost per print. That and the ability to print up to 17 inches wide.


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Mar 25, 2020 23:43 |  #11

For what it's worth:

I have an Epson Stylus Pro 3880. I never turn it off. It ha never clogged. It is calibrated to my two screens (monthly) and prints perfectly every time.

On the other hand, "perfectly" may be a variable term. I long ago gave up on trying to apply formulae to printing, or to expect any sort of standard settings for printing any or all images.

I've been using Epson printers for more than 20 years. My observation, (which is only that, and not to be taken as an authoritative statement), is that there are a lot more issues with Canon printers on this forum than there are about Epson.


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Mar 26, 2020 12:06 |  #12

Hen3Ry wrote in post #19033666 (external link)
For what it's worth:

I have an Epson Stylus Pro 3880. I never turn it off. It ha never clogged. It is calibrated to my two screens (monthly) and prints perfectly every time.

On the other hand, "perfectly" may be a variable term. I long ago gave up on trying to apply formulae to printing, or to expect any sort of standard settings for printing any or all images.

I've been using Epson printers for more than 20 years. My observation, (which is only that, and not to be taken as an authoritative statement), is that there are a lot more issues with Canon printers on this forum than there are about Epson.

Another 'for what it's worth"post. I have an Epson R1900 I bought about eight years ago. I also never turn it off. Sometimes I print a couple of time a week for several months in a row and sometimes I've left it along for 6 to 8 months. Never had a clog. I know this other printers mentioned in this thread are higher end printers but maybe never turning it off has something to do with not clogging.

On the other hand we used to have 8 Epson 4990 at work and we ran hundreds of prints per day on each and eventually they all got unclogagbly clogged.


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Mar 26, 2020 12:36 |  #13

R1200GS wrote in post #19033954 (external link)
Another 'for what it's worth"post. I have an Epson R1900 I bought about eight years ago. I also never turn it off. Sometimes I print a couple of time a week for several months in a row and sometimes I've left it along for 6 to 8 months. Never had a clog. I know this other printers mentioned in this thread are higher end printers but maybe never turning it off has something to do with not clogging.

On the other hand we used to have 8 Epson 4990 at work and we ran hundreds of prints per day on each and eventually they all got unclogagbly clogged.

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