A question for EOS 5 series users

When you bought your 5D series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1D series being produced at that same time if the 1D was smaller and less weight? Understandably the 1D series was still more expensive and that's okay.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19014783
When you bought your 5 series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1 series being produced at that same time if the 1 was smaller and less weight? Understandably the 1 series was still more expensive and that's okay.

No. I chose the 5Dc because I wanted to try full frame digital, inexpensively. It did lead me to the 6D. Some time later I acquired a 1DIV because that body met my needs at the time. Both are gone now, along with my EF glass. The 80D and a few crop-frame zooms take care of my digital needs these days.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19014783
When you bought your 5D series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1D series being produced at that same time if the 1D was smaller and less weight? Understandably the 1D series was still more expensive and that's okay.

When Canon first launched the 5D I did considered buying one but opted for the 1D instead as at the time it better suited the type of photography that I was doing. Size and weight had nothing to do with my decision.

And don’t forget, as with all aspects of photography, it is about personal preferences, so you should buy what best suites YOUR needs and requirements, and NOT someone else's.

john crossley wrote in post #19014876
And don’t forget, as with all aspects of photography, it is about personal preferences, so you should buy what best suites YOUR needs and requirements, and NOT someone else's.

What he said.

Overall size has kept me from ever wanting a 1-Series.

Not described as included in the purchase of my used 50D was an OEM battery grip, which surprised me
due to my purchase cost. I tried it out exactly once, and it went straight back in the box, which is
where it's lived these past 8 years or so. I absolutely did not like the added size/bulk.

I acquired a 5D when I suddenly & unexpectedly could, largely for true full-frame.
This will allow me to get full image areas from my vintage manual lenses.

My 5D3 is still more capable than me and so the extra expense of a 1D series body simply wouldn't be worth it.

But weight and size alone are enough to put me off the 1D, even if it was closer in price to the 5D series.

If my 5D3 died, I would get a 5D4. OTOH, if I wanted to add new capability, I would probably get a 5Ds.

5D series user from the Classic to the IV (collect them all)...
The 1D series it too big for my hands, the 5D series is perfect, for me

So far, 4 No and 0 Yes that would have chosen a 1D-anything over a 5D-anything if it had been smaller and less weight? Am I reading this correctly?

I take it from some of your other threads that you're about surveys. Almost 15 years ago, I bought the 5D because it was a FF DSLR that was approachable when it came to budget (I had been a film SLR person). I liked many things about it, but found DR lacking as well as AF. Since the 5D2 didn't have an improvement with AF, it wasn't until the 5D3 that I upgraded. Now I've upgraded to the 5D4 because of sensor performance most (but also see some more advantage with AF and customization). With the 5D3 and 5D4, I have always keeped them gripped...so 1D size wasn't an issue for me. It's that I like the IQ of the 5D series, and since the 5D3, the AF has been adequate for my needs as well. Seems the 1DX series has either been even better AF or burst rate for sports, or some better video performance replacing the 1Dc...features that I don't deem worth the extra money for my needs.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19015119
So far, 4 No and 0 Yes that would have chosen a 1D-anything over a 5D-anything if it had been smaller and less weight? Am I reading this correctly?

Odd...

Is this thread a poll for readers?
If it is, I see no indication.

I only came over here at your suggestion to elaborate,
as your previous polling effort didn't seem to be to your liking
(or to my own, as it was presented).
What're you after in this?


To further clarify, and to echo some sentiments: I would not have chosen a 1-Series
also due to cost, and simply due to it being capable of far more than I would have ever
asked of or wanted from it. What the 1-Series so excels at, is not of my style or interest.
It's a series unsuited towards people such as myself, what with Tommy Gun firing speed
and the like. I don't shoot for that stuff, and I don't expect I ever will,
so a 1D-whatever would be more than I'd ever desire.

But at the same time, the 5D4 gets fairly close to the same-era 1D Series
in terms of AF and aspects of IQ, so I'm confident it's the next-best option
to the 1D Series within the Canon system.

I did buy the 1 Series, the first three versions in fact, BUT I also did wish that it didn't have to be so large.

To expand, from the 1D-1D4 Canon only put the real good AF system into the 1D body (and 1Ds, but that was a $7.5K camera vs. $4,500.00 for the 1D)

For a wildlife buff, the 1D was the best game in town.
It's only downside was less resolution than the 1Ds and the 5D when it came out. And of course the size and weight.

When the 5D3 and 7D2 were released, all of a sudden Canon was putting REAL high end AF system into something other than a big heavy costly 1 series, and that is when I stopped buying 1D series.
To further push me out of the 1D business, Canon merged the $7.500.00 1Ds with the 1D to make the 1Dx,. which meant going 1D would cost even more, and at only 18MP FF I would lose even more "pixels on target"

Not sure any of this is pertinent to your question, but it struck me that it might be.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19014783
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When you bought your 5D series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1D series being produced at that same time if the 1D was smaller and less weight?
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I've actually chosen to have both a 1D series and a 5D series, simultaneously. My old combo was a 1D2 and a 5DC, and my current combo is a 1D4 and a 5D4.

I much prefer a larger, heavier camera - that is an advantage of the 1D series, not a disadvantage.

When I bought my first 5D series camera, the 5D classic, I already had a 1D Mark 2. . I added the 5D to my kit because there were many times I wasn't reach-challenged, and was framing the photos too tightly with the 1.3 crop sensor of the 1D Mark 2. . So, having a full frame body along was helpful for those times when I could get real close to the wildlife. . I was able to put more pixels on target because there were more pixels to work with, and the sensor was bigger so I wasn't cutting off body parts or framing in an awkwardly tight manner.

Having two different sensor sizes was beneficial, and that is why I bought my first 5D. . But I actually preferred the greater size and weight of the 1D Mark 2. . It fit my hand better and balanced better with the large lens I was using (a 13 pound 400 f2.8). . In fact, the smaller size of the 5D bothered me, so I bought a grip for it to make it fill my hand better and to give it a bit more weight. . But even with the grip, it didn't fill my hand the way the 1D Mark 2 did.

That was years ago. . These days, I again have a 1D body and a 5 D body - both Mark 4 of their respective series. . I love the resolution and high ISO capabilities of the 5D Mark 4, but its smaller size bothers me. . I love the feel and ergonomics of the 1D Mark 4, as the size and weight are perfect for me ..... but the image quality just isn't as good as the 5D Mark 4, so I plan to use the 5D Mark 4 as my primary body and to use the 1D Mark 4 primarily as a backup.


So, in short, I use the 5D bodies despite the fact that they are smaller and lighter, not because of it.

EDIT:
I just want to note that I am not a large man, nor am I fit or strong, nor do I have large hands. . My body is average in every way - 5 feet 9 1/2 inches, about 20 pounds overweight, untoned muscles, badly injured lower back, tendonitis in both elbows and a torn meniscus in my left knee ..... and a very average hand span of 9 inches and a below-average hand length of just 7 1/2 inches. . Yet the larger size of the 1D bodies feels just perfect in my very average hands. . I hate the way it feels to hold smaller cameras and I really hate the way it feels when I hold my cell phone (don't you wish that they would make cell phones about 5 times thicker than they are?)

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CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19015233
...For a wildlife buff, the 1D was the best game in town.
It's only downside was less resolution than the 1Ds and the 5D when it came out. And of course the size and weight.

Uh-huh. And what about just carrying it arouund?
Do you ever just sling it over your neck on a neckstrap, with a small lens on it?
I'd be willing to bet you don't do this, as I've paid some attention.

For those of us who do not want the size and bulk of a 1D-Series,
the 5D4 is a phenomenal alternative.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19015119
So far, 4 No and 0 Yes that would have chosen a 1D-anything over a 5D-anything if it had been smaller and less weight? Am I reading this correctly?

That is NOT accurate. I choose a 1D over a 5D as I clearly stated in my previous post.

chuckmiller wrote in post #19014783
When you bought your 5D series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1D series being produced at that same time if the 1D was smaller and less weight? Understandably the 1D series was still more expensive and that's okay.

Chuck My biggest concern for cameras was dual cards because I shoot weddings. When the 5Dc came out it had a magic sensor. To this day, it still produces colors and tones that the newer sensors do not replicate and Im really not sure why thats the case.....I played the game and used smaller cards but the 5Dc was used as a 2nd camera and the 1D11 was the primary with dual cards....So I used it much like the guys are using the EOS R today. I personally LOVED the H sensor and lived on the 1DMKiii and 1DMKIV for many many years...despite what Ken Rockwell said....the 1DMKiii was a great camera

Dual cards on the 5D3 let me switch and go all 5 series for wedding work and I gave up the 1DMKIV.......worst decision I made with camera purchase to date.......Nothig touches a 1D AF system. I dumped a 5D3 and got the 1Dx as soon as I could. I have not been off a 1D system since and the 5D series always compliment my main body which is a 1D camera

my 1Dx2 is the best camera I have ever used. I may get 8-9 yrs on this body as Im not 100% sure I will get a 1Dx3.......and I believe the R5 will be the new 5 series camera.....there will not be a 5D5 in my opinion

1D fits my hands perfectly...weight is not an issue to me

chuckmiller wrote in post #19014783
When you bought your 5D series body, whichever model it is, would you have chosen the 1D series being produced at that same time if the 1D was smaller and less weight? Understandably the 1D series was still more expensive and that's okay.

As someone pointed out to me previously that the 1D is unique in maximizing all the Canon's lens' technology. The 1D is a higher powered technology, utilizing ~4volts higher than the 5D (or 7D).