Coronavirus General Discussion (no politics, no flamewars!)

Wilt wrote in post #19046422
Soeren,
My comment about similarities between Denmark and US were specifically in response to your statement,
"Yes we have people staying at home in bed with covid19 as well and Lots of people being positive without symptoms or getting tested." Particularly the blue text.

It has been reported here that there is very considerable COVID-19 testing in a number of European countries, although the amount of testing availability actually seems similar between Denmark and US...
NOT everyone gets tested, and there are lots of asymptomatic people walking about as a result of failing to identify carriers via testing. There are CLAIMS by the national leadership of plenty of testing capacity for anyone who wants it, yet the reality is that the testing is rationed and we have to make special testing facilities available only to first responders or healthcare workers or transit workers.
The reality in California is that as of Apr 12, fewer than 145000 tests had been done, in a state with 40 Million residents! That is near-zero certainty about who does and does not have an active infection.


Your post makes it clearer to me how your system works. It sounds more 'socialized', dare I say somewhat like Sweden?

Arhh ok.

gjl711 wrote in post #19046280
Does anyone still get those? I haven't seem one in well over a decade or more.

2 days before lockdown here my work laptop started producing these screens every few hours or minutes:

https://www.partitionw​izard.com …-uncorrectable-error.html

"Summary :
Whea Uncorrectable Error
WHEA_UNCORRECTALE_ERRO​R is one of the blue screen error messages. This article will show you how to fix with 6 methods and show you how to recover data if your PC cannot boot into Windows successfully.

Quick Navigation :
About WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERR​OR
6 Fixes to Whea Uncorrectable Error Windows 10
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About WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERR​OR
Have you ever encountered the WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERR​OR on your PC? When you encounter this error, it shows Your PC ran into a problem and needs to restart with the stop code WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERR​OR on the lower right corner, just like the following screenshots."

Sounds like inherent sickness, not an acquired virus.

thanks Wilt, interestingly the machine had no issues at all for over a year, then 2 weeks after a fresh install of Windows it started falling over - the first time was immediately after installing a Zoom client so suspected clashing drivers initially - after a further format/reinstall it still occurred, so will look to get the hardware checked once we get back to working from the office which may be in a few weeks time.

Further digging reveals, from Microsoft, a hardware issue as well. Note the very last lines of the Microsoft tip, points to merely rolling back to an earlier Restore Point:

"How to fix WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ERR​OR
Applies to: Windows 10
If you receive a blue screen error (also known as a stop code), it means that your PC has shut down suddenly to protect itself from data loss. If you see the text “WHEA_UNCORRECTABLE_ER​ROR,” it means that a hardware error has occurred. To fix it, try the following:

Get all the latest updates with Windows Update. Go to Settings > Update & security > Windows Update, and then select Check for updates.
Try restoring Windows back to an earlier point in time.
Check for Windows updates"

Why that would resolve a hardware issue might be revealed here?! https://docs.microsoft​.com …ws-hardware/drivers/whea/

"Windows Hardware Error Architecture (WHEA) design guide
04/20/2017
2 minutes to read

This section describes the Windows Hardware Error Architecture (WHEA), which provides support for hardware error reporting and recovery. In this section, the following information is provided:

An overview of WHEA and its components. For more information, see Windows Hardware Error Architecture Overview.

How to develop and distribute platform-specific hardware error driver (PSHED) plug-ins. For more information, see Platform-Specific Hardware Error Driver Plug-Ins.

How user-mode applications can communicate with the WHEA platform. For more information, see Windows Hardware Error Architecture-Aware User-Mode Applications."

Wilt, I do not know the answer in this case. I'm guessing a harvest or labor problem, possibly lack of hands on physical harvest labor. I would not think the problem would be in trucking or machinery. Could be a warehouse problem, just don't know. Though it averages out that each US farmer raises enough food for 155 people, most of us specialize in certain crops because of location and profits.I know next to nothing about farming anywhere other than the mid west. If you relied on just me for food you would have some of the finest beef you've ever eaten with cornmeal, corn flakes, corn oil or soybean oil as sides. It does take producers from many areas to give us the delicious well balanced meals we enjoy and do so through out the year.

Today was the first that I became aware of new signs under the Hamburger at Hy Vee grocery stores. At this time I do not have a way of sharing a link or photo but here is what the sign says:

"Due to a cost increase throughout the supplier industry on this commodity, the price of this product may be higher than normal."
HyVee

They are a great store chain in the mid west and I'm not trying to bash them whatsoever, but dang it this was what I predicted a few posts back.
And a fat steer is bringing $100 less per head now for the farmer than it was a month ago. I just wish they would sell the product until it was gone, I mean raising the price on my end buyers will not help increase the food supply.

Grizz1 wrote in post #19046666
Wilt, I do not know the answer in this case. I'm guessing a harvest or labor problem, possibly lack of hands on physical harvest labor. I would not think the problem would be in trucking or machinery. Could be a warehouse problem, just don't know. Though it averages out that each US farmer raises enough food for 155 people, most of us specialize in certain crops because of location and profits.I know next to nothing about farming anywhere other than the mid west. If you relied on just me for food you would have some of the finest beef you've ever eaten with cornmeal, corn flakes, corn oil or soybean oil as sides. It does take producers from many areas to give us the delicious well balanced meals we enjoy and do so through out the year.

I did more research after seeing the clip of TV. Newspaper article cleared up some of the very complex issues, a few of which are...

• commercial farmers who are oriented to supplying the commercial/restaurant distribution have no sales in that area, and cannot easily repackage for retail sales...e.g. cheese in huge blocks, not small retail packaging.
  
• Packaging requirements and labellling requirements very different for retail vs. for commercial food distributors/restauran​t supply, e.g. milk in gallon bottles vs. 5 or 6 gal bags for commercial milk dispensers
  
• Lack of field workers to pick the produce crops and still be in compliance with social distancing requirements
  
• Lack of existing distribution channels supplying food banks...they are accustomed to shipping their goods to commercial food distributors, not individual food banks
  
• Food banks short on volunteers because the over-65 crowd who usually volunterr are sheltering-at-home as required.
  
• A huge amount of food which normally goes to the restaurant and commercial food production are not taking their usual volumes of food because they are closed and/or are limited to to-go orders.
  
• Workers who frequent restaurants and in-house cafeterias at home working, not at the office/factory
  

Thanks Wilt for taking the time to reply. Much of what you shared makes sense. I fear we are going to see many trickle down affects for quite some time. It's a guessing game on who or what is going to take a hit from the consequences of the virus.

Wilt wrote in post #19046675
I did more research after seeing the clip of TV. Newspaper article cleared up some of the very complex issues, a few of which are...

All of which I have read about.
The truth is that far more of domestic food distribution/packaging is in place to serve commercial venues
than domestic or consumers, and it would be costly and/or impossible to shift some of those standards
to consumer grocery outlets.

On the other end of that, I've been reading about small businesses such as bakeries who have
adapted to reparceling supplies from their distributors to repackage and sell as typical
consumer-portions, thus filling in where some of the shortages have been seen.
I also just today read of a restaurant foodservice supplier opening their doors to the public
for the first time in their 40-year history.

Wilt wrote in post #19046422
Soeren,
My comment about similarities between Denmark and US were specifically in response to your statement,
"Yes we have people staying at home in bed with covid19 as well and Lots of people being positive without symptoms or getting tested." Particularly the blue text.

It has been reported here that there is very considerable COVID-19 testing in a number of European countries, although the amount of testing availability actually seems similar between Denmark and US...
NOT everyone gets tested, and there are lots of asymptomatic people walking about as a result of failing to identify carriers via testing. There are CLAIMS by the national leadership of plenty of testing capacity for anyone who wants it, yet the reality is that the testing is rationed and we have to make special testing facilities available only to first responders or healthcare workers or transit workers.
The reality in California is that as of Apr 12, fewer than 145000 tests had been done, in a state with 40 Million residents! That is near-zero certainty about who does and does not have an active infection.


Your post makes it clearer to me how your system works. It sounds more 'socialized', dare I say somewhat like Sweden?

if you know anyone working the hospitals around the LA area, they are very low volume right now.

if you're alluding to more than meets the eye, well, that's always going to be the case with viruses. Not sure if you heard of the story with pregnant women in new york, it's a small sample size, but the vast majority were asymptomatic.

https://nypost.com …etting-coronavirus-study/

a large percentage had covid-19! if we're to sample that as a representation of the population, that would mean that possibly millions are infected in NY.

joeseph wrote in post #19046538
2 days before lockdown here my work laptop started producing these screens every few hours or minutes:

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mad panic ensues, re-imaged it at least 3 times eventually shelving it & borrowing another unit - pretty sure the problem is hardware...

WHEA (Windows Hardware Error Architecture). Not that easy to fault find either, lucky you had another laptop available.

My youngest son start up at school today and the politicians are negotiating removal of more restrictions. The infection rate has dropped to 0,6 through our social distancing strategi so now is time for controlled immunizing of the danish population

soeren wrote in post #19046709
My youngest son start up at school today and the politicians are negotiating removal of more restrictions. The infection rate has dropped to 0,6 through our social distancing strategi so now is time for controlled immunizing of the danish population

If done planned well and done carefully we can make some significant improvements.

Anyone else out there have this to keep their spirits up?