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Apr 26, 2020 16:41 |  #46

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Apr 26, 2020 16:45 as a reply to  @ post 19053283 |  #47

LR 1st one raw export screen sharpen lens adjustment. 2nd is auto adjustment in LR.Think i got a free DXO from using Smugmug have to check here .

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Apr 26, 2020 17:10 |  #48

That looks good too. I opened two pages so I could at both C1 and LR. C1 looks a little more contrasty but that is what they do out of the box with no adjustments.


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Apr 26, 2020 17:41 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #49

Yes from what i have seen myself.I think Adobe goes for (Dare i say this) more of a neutral starting point color wise i have noticed in my photos.


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Apr 26, 2020 17:54 |  #50

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Yes from what i have seen myself.I think Adobe goes for (Dare i say this) more of a neutral starting point color wise i have noticed in my photos.

That is what Ted Forbes says in that video but what I like is he explains it is not all just saturation. Some people don't like the saturation (I'll just use that term term to make it easier) but it didn't bother me. I like a little punch. I have been a PS user since 2005. I tried C1 about 10+ years ago and I remember then saying wow to the colour but again the price tag. I went with Silkypix which had very nice colours and I liked the final result. I can't remember why I stopped using it. I know I hovered over that C1 buy button many times :-)


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Apr 26, 2020 20:34 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #51

I can understand that :) Well going to try DxO for 30 days.Looks like they changed a bunch stuff on me from the last time i was playing with it.I see they updated NiK collection also.


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Apr 27, 2020 16:20 |  #52

DXO has a lot of strengths. I own it but still use LR for cataloging. It's strengths are Prime for NR and Lens Corrections. It does not have the sophisticated export process LR has. Export is Bilinear, Bicubic and Bicubic Sharper. When downsampling Bicubic Sharper can get a little crunchy. People control that via Lens Sharpness by reducing the factory setting. I pretty much always send to DXO and back to LR for export but you will experiment with it.

Just a note. A lot of people including myself wonder what USM is for. That should be only used if your lens is not listed for Lens Corrections.

A person on another site wrote this tutorial. If you click on Lens Sharpness Control it talks about both.

http://tuto.dxo.free.f​r/EN/Efficacite/Effici​ency.html (external link)

Geez. C1 sent me a second email with a promo code for 25% off for a few more days. At this point I think I'd have to dump Adobe outright which would result losing Portfolio and paying Zenfolio or someone else for a personal site.


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Apr 27, 2020 16:49 |  #53

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I was messing around with the Adobe version. I have Texture, Clarity and DeHaze auto apply at import with my tweaks so I applied them to it. Then after clicking Auto it got more pizzaz out of it. C1 does nice work out of the box.


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Apr 28, 2020 00:56 |  #54

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DXO has a lot of strengths. I own it but still use LR for cataloging. It's strengths are Prime for NR and Lens Corrections. It does not have the sophisticated export process LR has. Export is Bilinear, Bicubic and Bicubic Sharper. When downsampling Bicubic Sharper can get a little crunchy. People control that via Lens Sharpness by reducing the factory setting. I pretty much always send to DXO and back to LR for export but you will experiment with it.

Just a note. A lot of people including myself wonder what USM is for. That should be only used if your lens is not listed for Lens Corrections.

A person on another site wrote this tutorial. If you click on Lens Sharpness Control it talks about both.

http://tuto.dxo.free.f​r/EN/Efficacite/Effici​ency.html (external link)

Geez. C1 sent me a second email with a promo code for 25% off for a few more days. At this point I think I'd have to dump Adobe outright which would result losing Portfolio and paying Zenfolio or someone else for a personal site.

I knew there was something else. Reading forums some DXO owners also use Affinity Photo to finish the edits. That may include export resizing and sharpening. Affinity offers a several downsampling algorithms to choose from. I picked Affinity up for ½ price ($25) about 3 weeks ago and haven't checked it out yet.


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Apr 28, 2020 07:01 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #55

I personally never export from DxO Photolab directly to disk because of lousy export sharpness control.
You have 3 options: Bilinear, Bicubic and Bicubic sharper.
Sometimes ‘Bicubic’ gives you soft image and if you export the same image with ‘Bicubic sharper’ the images is oversharpened.
This is well known issue (on DxO forum) and they say it will be fixed in next edition (probably Photolab 4).
I always export to Photoshop where I resize and then use Unsharp mask. This is the only way I can see, how sharp will be the exported image before I save it to disk.

By the way; there is another issue with Photolab regarding sharpness – blurry previews when image is ‘’Fit on screen’’.
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Apr 28, 2020 10:01 |  #56

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I personally never export from DxO Photolab directly to disk because of lousy export sharpness control.
You have 3 options: Bilinear, Bicubic and Bicubic sharper.
Sometimes ‘Bicubic’ gives you soft image and if you export the same image with ‘Bicubic sharper’ the images is oversharpened.
This is well known issue (on DxO forum) and they say it will be fixed in next edition (probably Photolab 4).
I always export to Photoshop where I resize and then use Unsharp mask. This is the only way I can see, how sharp will be the exported image before I save it to disk.

By the way; there is another issue with Photolab regarding sharpness – blurry previews when image is ‘’Fit on screen’’.
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https://feedback.dxo.c​om …-zoomed-out-preview/11820 (external link)

I have found Bicubic always gives me a soft image but I supposed that depends on how much you downsample. It would help if they improve the export options. Funny you mention that you can see how sharp the image will look before exporting. I was a die hard Canon's DPP die hard and used to send files to PS for final resizing and sharpening. It was OK for single hobby shots but editing 700 files for an event was a nightmare. It took 3 trials over several months to warm up tp LR because you can't see the final until after final export. LR saved my bacon in that regard then over time I started to appreciate LR's export capabilities.

For anyone who is interested PK Sharpener for PS is now free but can't guarantee it will work on the latest OS. The PixelGenius group developed LR's Detail panel and Export page. It is similar to LR's export process but has more options. This was $100 a few years ago.

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Apr 29, 2020 08:49 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #57

Check this from DxO forum from one of DxO stuff:
'' ... as you already may know we don’t apply all correction when zoom is lower than 70%. Saturation management is part of it, when zoom is like 25% display of image is simplified for a problem of performance and then complex saturated part of image (when area is not homogenous like her for example) are not correct but when you zoom in you will get same display as exported image.... ''

Looks like when image is ''fit on screen'' you don't see accurate colors in Photolab.
Only when you zoom 70% or more you see true colors as they are.
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Apr 29, 2020 09:09 |  #58

Can you provide a link to that forum?


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Apr 29, 2020 09:24 as a reply to  @ digital paradise's post |  #59

Yes, I can:

https://feedback.dxo.c​om/t/changing-of-colors/12840 (external link)

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Apr 29, 2020 10:41 |  #60

That is sure odd.


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