Capture 1 VS LR

I must say I like Photoshop a lot. I could not live only with a RAW converter. I like all those possibilities Photoshop gives me.

You know; It’s funny about those RAW converters. I’ve tried a bunch of them but at the end I always come back to DxO. There are some things I don’t like and I wish they could just copy Highlights and Shadows slider from Lightroom but if I draw a line DxO gives me somehow the best compromise between what I want and what I can get.

If you have some time to spare ….

https://feedback.dxo.c​om …es-with-orange-tint/12268

https://feedback.dxo.c​om …tment-control-point/12147

Mathmans wrote in post #19056336
I must say I like Photoshop a lot. I could not live only with a RAW converter. I like all those possibilities Photoshop gives me.

You know; It’s funny about those RAW converters. I’ve tried a bunch of them but at the end I always come back to DxO. There are some things I don’t like and I wish they could just copy Highlights and Shadows slider from Lightroom but if I draw a line DxO gives me somehow the best compromise between what I want and what I can get.

If you have some time to spare ….

https://feedback.dxo.c​om …es-with-orange-tint/12268

https://feedback.dxo.c​om …tment-control-point/12147

Selective Tone has Highlight and Shadow Sliders.

Yes; those sliders in DxO are part of the ''Selective tone'' tool but they don't work as you would expect.
I wish they would work as Lightroom sliders.

Do a test. Download a high quality grayscale and put it into Lightroom and DxO.
Then play with those sliders. I think you will find out they have the same name but they behave different.

Mathmans wrote in post #19056395
Yes; those sliders in DxO are part of the ''Selective tone'' tool but they don't work as you would expect.
I wish they would work as Lightroom sliders.

Do a test. Download a high quality grayscale and put it into Lightroom and DxO.
Then play with those sliders. I think you will find out they have the same name but they behave different.

Thanks. I'll try that out. LR is my Primary developer so I'll likely not use them until I need to.

The Selective Tone sliders are notorious for having too much crosstalk between tonal ranges. Usually I get better results by using Exposure Comp and a few Spot selections in the Smart Lighting tool/slider. I also find that I get additional highlight recovery with small doses of the Clear View slider. Lowering Contrast (ie, negative contrast) also helps, as DXO starts with a fairly punchy automatic interpretation of the raw file.

Kirk

I had a rough time trying to wrap my head around DXO felt like my first time in LR.Think i use the DXO standard to start with preset.Took some tips from Kirks post above i am pretty happy with the end result.

Looks richer but you lost a little detail on the dogs nose.

Quick fix before bed. Wish i could got a better shot of her every time i tried to lay on the ground she was right there with me wanting to play.Maybe next time.

That looks much better. I know you are testing. Is there something in your last revision that LR can't do? If you are looking to dump LR, DXO is a good alternative if you can live without a DAM. etc. The price id more reasonable than C1.

Just playing around mostly.It would be easy to fall in love with DXO.The more i play with it getting past the learning curves with the sliders and the brush tools.I love the whole package of LR the catalog system,LR library.Thanks to Tony Long and others in this raw form its what i learned on at least 9 years plus i think.So not looking to leave LR.Played with C1 many times over the years and DXO one time awhile back a few times.Think its always good to explore what others have to offer and there is a lot of good photo editing software out there now days to choose from.I never had the time before to use my cameras or even LR as much as i wanted working 12 -14 plus hours a day to tired to try to learn anything and time off on weekends try to play catch up with family and friends and photography was after everything else was done.Now with the shut downs i finally got time to get some skills in editing and time to get out and work on and learn some good photography skills.Now back to the software if i could afford it i would have C1,DXO, and LR.

DXO is good software. Every once on a while I think about dropping LR but I have a B&W process I really like that DXO can't match. Prime alone would be a good reason. LR can't touch it at high ISO but maybe one day they will introduce NR Sensei that was requested on the Photoshop user forums. Currently there isn't enough to motivate me to leave as at low ISO's I can pretty much match LR to DXO. DXO Lens corrections are better but makes little difference with my telephoto lenses and is not as critical to me. The perspective control looks interesting but that is another $70. I have had a personal website since 2008 and if you check pricing out there having Portfolio with the plan is almost like getting LR and PS for free. I have DXO so my foot is in the door if Adobe ever ticks me off. IMO for DXO to be a standalone option they need to improve the export downsampling options.

Came to this section to make a similar thread...but mostly in regards to sharpness. Using Lightroom, I can't seem to replicate the same level of sharpness I get from C1. Is it maybe something I'm doing wrong, or is this just a strength of C1? The differences can be significant at times. The only way I'm able to come close is by using "high" output sharpening during the Lightroom export, but even then, the sharpening isn't as refined.

In Lr on a windows machine you go to sharping and hit the alt key to reset sharping keep the alt key pushed and go down to masking. Here is a video for you tube.https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=PexeT3rPB7Q Hope that helps. And 1 more just for a FYI https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=mSg_JYuULB8.

mannetti21 wrote in post #19067965
Came to this section to make a similar thread...but mostly in regards to sharpness. Using Lightroom, I can't seem to replicate the same level of sharpness I get from C1. Is it maybe something I'm doing wrong, or is this just a strength of C1? The differences can be significant at times. The only way I'm able to come close is by using "high" output sharpening during the Lightroom export, but even then, the sharpening isn't as refined.

I started using C One a month ago after seeing the same thing while doing the free trial. Pictures were jumping off the screen compared to Lightroom. It may not completely be Lightroom's fault - I have an older version that couldn't directly import the files of my newer camera, had to do a conversion into DNG format, they may have been losing a little something along the way. But even then, going back to older files that could go straight into LR, they are a little sharper, a little crisper coming out of C One.

mannetti21 wrote in post #19067965
Came to this section to make a similar thread...but mostly in regards to sharpness. Using Lightroom, I can't seem to replicate the same level of sharpness I get from C1. Is it maybe something I'm doing wrong, or is this just a strength of C1? The differences can be significant at times. The only way I'm able to come close is by using "high" output sharpening during the Lightroom export, but even then, the sharpening isn't as refined.

I switched from Lightroom to C1 in January and I also find that C1 is leaps ahead of Lightroom in terms of sharpening.
What I do find unnerving, though is that C1 does not have a simple masking tool for sharpening, like Lightroom (as sssc described).