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canongear wrote in post #19084519 (external link)
It's the fact that there are no thumbnails for the files once the files are in the designated folder on the hard drive.
Seeing thumbnails is a personal preference for me as I would go to a folder, look at the files that were in it and then choose what I want to import into Lightroom.

Why don't you import all your images into Lr to start with and then remove the ones that you don't want in Lr. You can remove images from Lr without deleting them from your hard drive.




  
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Jun 27, 2020 12:47 |  #17

canongear wrote in post #19084519 (external link)
Importing the files to the computer from the card reader or from the camera itself using a micro usb cable isn't an issue now as I now know the work arounds for doing it compared to how I use to do it.

It's the fact that there are no thumbnails for the files once the files are in the designated folder on the hard drive.
Seeing thumbnails is a personal preference for me as I would go to a folder, look at the files that were in it and then choose what I want to import into Lightroom.

That may be an archaic way of doing things but it is/was my method.

Using a micro usb cable, I can import the files to a designated folder on the hard drive without having to go through Lightroom first.
Speed wise using the micro cable, I didn't find it too bad.
Took 30-40 seconds approximately to import 31 files.

It looks like you won't be able to work with CR3 files the same way as before.

I found out that Irfanview (free) will display CR3 thumbnails, pages of them. You have to change some settings, but it works well after that.


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Jun 27, 2020 14:44 |  #18

gjl711 wrote in post #19084321 (external link)
It's not a utility, it's just a codec. Windows does not have the codec built in yet.

The OP is using Windows 7 Pro.




  
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Jun 27, 2020 14:45 |  #19

Maybe it is time for the OP to consider moving to Windows 10. It still can be acquired free since he/she has Win 7.




  
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Jun 28, 2020 17:48 |  #20

canongear wrote in post #19084519 (external link)
It's the fact that there are no thumbnails for the files once the files are in the designated folder on the hard drive.
Seeing thumbnails is a personal preference for me as I would go to a folder, look at the files that were in it and then choose what I want to import into Lightroom.

That may be an archaic way of doing things but it is/was my method.


If you use the Canon EOS Utility (see my post above), it automatically launches Canon DPP after the download finishes. DPP then displays thumbnails for all files including CR3s. From DPP you can delete the ones you don't want and then launch LR.


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Jun 29, 2020 13:25 as a reply to  @ dangermoney's post |  #21

canongear wrote in post #19084266 (external link)
I wasn't aware of a CR3 codec needing to be loaded.
Loaded where?

Installed to the Windows operating system.

gjl711 wrote in post #19084321 (external link)
It's not a utility, it's just a codec. Windows does not have the codec built in yet.

To put it more succinctly: Windows 7 does not natiively support CR3 files,
as it has done for your older CR2 files. A codec is software instructions
which inform Windows what it is and how to translate it to a viewable image.

A quick search indicates Canon ceased offering their own codecs for Windows in 2012,
and other suitable codecs are not yet found. I may find something after narrowing
search keywords.

EDIT to add:
I see there's a Raw Image Extension (external link) from Microsoft which indicates it is able
to natively display CR3 files, but it is only for Windows 10.


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Jun 29, 2020 15:50 |  #22

SkedAddled stated

I see there's a Raw Image Extension from Microsoft which indicates it is able to natively display CR3 files, but it is only for Windows 10.

To the OP, what is the aversion to moving to Win 10? You aren’t going to get anywhere with Win 7 moving forward.




  
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Jun 29, 2020 16:25 |  #23

John from PA wrote in post #19085706 (external link)
SkedAddled stated

I see there's a Raw Image Extension from Microsoft which indicates it is able to natively display CR3 files, but it is only for Windows 10.

John from PA wrote:
To the OP, what is the aversion to moving to Win 10? You aren’t going to get anywhere with Win 7 moving forward.

Agreed. I'd also suggest moving to 10, as someone who has done so.
You'll only get a 'Critical' update to Win7 once or maybe twice more, and then it's done.

However, in defense of Win7, I keep an installation of it on a drive I can swap out
any time I wish. This may be the best option: Find a drive-dock you can use
with your drives, and swap them as needed, keeping them separate.
I suggest this route over a multi-boot situation, as it physically separates
the Windows versions from each other.


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Jun 29, 2020 16:36 |  #24

SkedAddled wrote in post #19085725 (external link)
However, in defense of Win7, I keep an installation of it on a drive I can swap out
any time I wish. This may be the best option: Find a drive-dock you can use
with your drives, and swap them as needed, keeping them separate.
I suggest this route over a multi-boot situation, as it physically separates
the Windows versions from each other.

That somehow does not sound like an ideal solution for the OP. -?


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Jun 29, 2020 17:04 |  #25

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That somehow does not sound like an ideal solution for the OP. -?

Probably not, but it's a potential workaround.

I just came back from loading Win7, and the only update offered
was to 'upgrade' to the Microsoft Edge web browser.
I chose to Hide that update, as I don't like the M$ browsers.

Prior to that, the latest update came through on April 20.
Many were surprised by that one, as official support ended long before then.

I suspect I'll check it a few more times, and when it tells me that support has ended,
I'll simply disable network connectivity. Meanwhile, Win7 still has some use left in it.


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canongear wrote in post #19084024 (external link)
If you are referring to Canon DPP, I have installed that since I posted my question and it works for viewing and editing the CR3 files.

After looking into things a bit more about these CR3 files, my understanding now is that you need certain software such as Lightroom, Photoshop, etc to import and open these files.

Unless I'm doing something wrong, I can't import these files directly into DPP from the card reader.
The Canon DPP program does not come up as an option in the AutoPlay window when I put the card in the card reader
I have to import them first into Lightroom or Photoshop, and then create a separate folder for them in Lightroom and then access that folder using DPP.

Am I right in thinking that in order to import these CR3 files from a memory card to the computer, the user is being forced to buy 3rd part software or find some other software that does it for "free"?
There must be some way to import Canon files using Canon software.

If your PC can show the files existing on the card/card reader combination, I don’t think there is any reason that DPP can’t open those CR3 files if pointed to the card reader. Having said that, what version of DPP are you using?

You might also find some help at https://www.eostrainin​gacademy.co.uk …10.0.0_update_P​review.pdf (external link). Go specifically to page 11.

Edit, see link https://community.usa.​canon.com …R3-file/m-p/281783#M40185 (external link)




  
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SkedAddled wrote in post #19085725 (external link)
Agreed. I'd also suggest moving to 10, as someone who has done so.
You'll only get a 'Critical' update to Win7 once or maybe twice more, and then it's done.

However, in defense of Win7, I keep an installation of it on a drive I can swap out
any time I wish. This may be the best option: Find a drive-dock you can use
with your drives, and swap them as needed, keeping them separate.
I suggest this route over a multi-boot situation, as it physically separates
the Windows versions from each other.

I keep Win7 on one of two desktop PCs simply because there is some part of the Microsoft Office software that runs fine on Win7 but it does not do well on Win10, and I do not want to pay the perpetual fee to get the Win10 compatible version of that same software when I otherwis do not need the entire office suite in retirement!


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Wilt wrote in post #19086234 (external link)
I keep Win7 on one of two desktop PCs simply because there is some part of the Microsoft Office software that runs fine on Win7 but it does not do well on Win10, and I do not want to pay the perpetual fee to get the Win10 compatible version of that same software when I otherwis do not need the entire office suite in retirement!

Yeah, that's another unsettling trend going on which M$ has moved into:
The leasing or renting of software installations. Such as Office, these industry-standard
applications are moving towards leasing/rental over purchase, just to keep the monthly
revenue influx. It's a bit of a back-stab maneuver.


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Jun 30, 2020 20:08 |  #29

SkedAddled wrote in post #19085741 (external link)
Probably not, but it's a potential workaround.

I just came back from loading Win7, and the only update offered
was to 'upgrade' to the Microsoft Edge web browser.
I chose to Hide that update, as I don't like the M$ browsers.

Prior to that, the latest update came through on April 20.
Many were surprised by that one, as official support ended long before then.

I suspect I'll check it a few more times, and when it tells me that support has ended,
I'll simply disable network connectivity. Meanwhile, Win7 still has some use left in it.

Yes Edge is loaded by default...crazy, since Microsoft already announced that it was getting out of the browser business and discontinuing Edge! "Microsoft is replacing Edge with its new Chromium browser next week. Microsoft is replacing its Edge browser with the updated, Chromium-based version on January 15. Windows 10 users will be automatically transitioned over.Jan 10, 2020"
I just did a reload of Win10 with Microsoft Tech Support assistance, but it was version 19nn (2019)...when he tried to load v20nn (2020) it came back and said that was NOT COMPATIBLE YET with my 1.5yr old HP PC. -? Edge loaded. After initial startup steps, I closed Edge...then loaded Chrome and set it as my default browser!!! Edge will sit otherwise unused.


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SkedAddled wrote in post #19086241 (external link)
Yeah, that's another unsettling trend going on which M$ has moved into:
The leasing or renting of software installations. Such as Office, these industry-standard
applications are moving towards leasing/rental over purchase, just to keep the monthly
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Myself, and a business colleague, both came to the same conclusion after trying to use Office 2007 coming from Office 2003 (and earler versions)...Microsoft had shifted around all sorts of functionality, so that if you knew how to do some complex and sophisticated stuff, you could not find it or figure that same complex and sophisticated stuff under Office 2007. Independently we both decided to go back and stay at Office 2003, as we could get the most out of it...so there has never been temptation to go newer on Office versions and suffer the indefinite end to paying them money for the software. It is really more of a FUNCTIONALITY issue, and the money issue is a secondard thing!


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