Canons R6 "maybe" a better choice for wedding photographers

saw some additional specs of the Canon R6

Its rumored to come in under $2400 and it has the exact AF system as the R5 with a 20mp sensor

Not sure why any of us want or need 45mp's every click for wedding work. Except for the missing top LCD..thats a bummer as I love this on the 1Dx2 and 5D4.... I dont see much to not like about this R6 over the R5 for wedding work. Take a look and please comment. Would love to hear opinions...

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my thoughts after photographing so many weddings

The biggest problem for wedding photographers now, with mirrorless technology, is wedding receptions. I have had an EOS R out to 5 weddings....No thanks....it cant hit squat for moving targets in dark wedding reception environments. The 5D4 killed the R when we shot it side by side at exact targets like first dances, Grand march entrances, dance floor reception shots when the lights went low and DJ Lights came on.

5D4 and 1Dx2 excelled. Servo engaged, ISO settings at 6400-12800 conditions and the DSLR's will lock. The R struggled. My friends that shoot nikon say the Z is the same. Sony's A9 has been the exception but they have had to deal with the rolling shutter situation.

Eye focus is a cool feature for individual portrait work. But we cant use eye focus all day long at a wedding. Just too much and too many factors where manual controlling the AF focal points come into play. I can see eye focus being a big advantage on the processional and the bride walking in. But the 1Dx2 will never miss a processional shot. I have used a 1Dx and 1Dx2 since release....I cant tell you how many weddings....but a lot...well over 250....the 1Dx AF system has never missed a single processional shot. It doesn't jump to highlights and has zero issues tracking anything that moves. I cant say the same for the 5D4 and was afraid to try an EOS R....those are shots you cant miss.

The 20MP sensor is exciting for me. Its about perfect for wedding needs. I much prefer the 1Dx2 files over the 5D4 files while in post. So I think I want to see what they have eliminated on the R6 that they included on the R5.....Joy stick is so crucial for me and I will miss no top settings screen

lastly, ISO performance. one of the selling features Canon has touted about the R6 is superb ISO performance....a 20mp file is going to be cleaner at 12800 than a 45mp sensor.....wedding photographers play in the dark....6400-12800 at receptions is universal now and its getting darker every year. I remember back in 2007, shooting 40D's and 1DMKiii's at weddings and being so excited to use 3200 ISO on the 1DMKiii's..40D's were still stuck at 2000 ISO..think about that......3200 ISO was a dream to use......now we are at 12800...just amazing where its gone..This new 20MP sensor on a mirrorless could put us at 25800 for routine use...thats mind blowing from just 12 yrs ago.......IF IT CAN HIT A MOVING SUBJECT !!!!!

so Im going to be watching the release and waiting to see. What are your thoughts about this R6 for wedding work, especially with the same AF system as the R5

Oh man

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Joy stick in back and a big spin wheel. flip screen as well

I don’t do weddings but this is the one I am watching. If AF and tracking accuracy is as good as expected I’ll be very tempted. At first the 20mp sensor put me off simply b/c I thought newer should have more, but when I think about it logically, I’m quickly warming up to it.

I'm a little concerned about the 20mp sensor since I do landscapes. However IQ can always counteract that concern.

AF is critical for me! I shoot high school football played at night. My 7DII does a good job and the AF is good but over 3200 ISO is not very good. I will sacrifice some focal length if the AF is good! Look forward to hearing about it's performance!

xinvisionx wrote in post #19089464
I'm a little concerned about the 20mp sensor since I do landscapes. However IQ can always counteract that concern.

I just did a little calculation in order to understand your concern...
With a nominal 20Mpixel camera, when enlarged to 20" x 30" print, its pixel size is sufficiently small to NOT BE PERCEIVABLE by the human with 20/20 vision, when standing at a 30" viewing distance from the print. Its pixel size on print is about 0.6x of what the eye can detect (0.0087" at 30").

When you go with a 45MPixel camera, also enlarged to 20" x 30" print, its pixel size is roughly 0.6x size of the 20MPixel camera...IOW the human eye is NOT acute enough to appreciate the increased detail resolution in its print, when viewed from 30"...its pixel size is about 0.4x of what the eye can detect.

Put in another way, a 20MPixel camera is sufficient to make a 20" x 30" print and stand as close as about 18" away and detect a single pixel at that distance! A 45MPixel camera is sufficient to make 20 x 30" print and stand as close as 12" way and detect a single pixel at that distance.

Methinks the prospect of 45MPixel mirrorless from Canon is more for bragging rights than it is about REAL NEED by the average photographer. That, and its benefit for someone trying to shoot 8k video. If only we had affordable 8k cinema projectors; it took a very long time for 4k projection to become affordable!

Wilt wrote in post #19089758
I just did a little calculation in order to understand your concern...
With a nominal 20Mpixel camera, when enlarged to 20" x 30" print, its pixel size is sufficiently small to NOT BE PERCEIVABLE by the human with 20/20 vision, when standing at a 30" viewing distance from the print. Its pixel size on print is about 0.6x of what the eye can detect (0.0087" at 30").

When you go with a 45MPixel camera, also enlarged to 20" x 30" print, its pixel size is roughly 0.6x size of the 20MPixel camera...IOW the human eye is NOT acute enough to appreciate the increased detail resolution in its print, when viewed from 30"...its pixel size is about 0.4x of what the eye can detect.

Put in another way, a 20MPixel camera is sufficient to make a 20" x 30" print and stand as close as about 18" away and detect a single pixel at that distance! A 45MPixel camera is sufficient to make 20 x 30" print and stand as close as 12" way and detect a single pixel at that distance.

Methinks the prospect of 45MPixel mirrorless from Canon is more for bragging rights than it is about REAL NEED by the average photographer. That, and its benefit for someone trying to shoot 8k video. If only we had affordable 8k cinema projectors; it took a very long time for 4k projection to become affordable!

100%

I think the only thing I see that is of a concern is wether sealing. How much better is the R5 for wether sealing....For me a 45mp sensor was a complete no go and I was content to just stay 5D4 and 1Dx2....but this being a 20MP sensor and coming in below $2500 has sparked the interest big time for me

xinvisionx wrote in post #19089464
I'm a little concerned about the 20mp sensor since I do landscapes. However IQ can always counteract that concern.

If the sensor size concerns you, consider the existing EOS R. It's terrific for landscapes, has a 30+ mp sensor, and costs less than what the EOS R6 will probably be introduced at.

Cropping is my thought when needed as much as I try to avoid it.

As for the EOS R, it's not an option for me. I have a Mark IV and if I'm going to go to mirrorless, I want a good upgrade. Not a lateral.

not much out there on this camera as far as rumors, and yeah, i know it is being announced tomorrow, but is there any hint that it might be more than 20MP?

I'm not chasing resolution, and don't want 35MP but 20 is just absurdly low in this day and age unless it is going to have 16 stops of DR and totally noiseless files at 6400.

xinvisionx wrote in post #19089978
Cropping is my thought when needed as much as I try to avoid it.

As for the EOS R, it's not an option for me. I have a Mark IV and if I'm going to go to mirrorless, I want a good upgrade. Not a lateral.

A very good point!

xinvisionx wrote in post #19089978
Cropping is my thought when needed as much as I try to avoid it.

As for the EOS R, it's not an option for me. I have a Mark IV and if I'm going to go to mirrorless, I want a good upgrade. Not a lateral.

So, if I update from 500D and MKII to R might it be approved?

R5 for me and I will just shoot in sraw when I want r6 type files.

umphotography wrote in post #19088486
The 20MP sensor is exciting for me. Its about perfect for wedding needs.

Is here any technical problem to choose less sized RAW from 30+MP camera settings? My 21MP 5D MKII does support smaller RAW files.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19090137
R5 for me and I will just shoot in sraw when I want r6 type files.

your assuming they will have Sraw and Mraw functions