Canon EOS R5 Unite and Discuss!

Methodical wrote in post #19152109
There are some Youtube videos out there where they do a comparison. I only have the 100-400. It seems many like the 100-500, R5 combo.

Watched a couple and they seem to say that it is actually hard to tell the difference when used with a 1.4x III, which I also have. I would assume that using it without the extender it would be slightly sharper and I could crop slightly to emulate the 500mm length, and also have the f 5.6 to boot

Dave63401 wrote in post #19152394
Go to menu, Camera, Tab 8, under display performance, change it from Power Saving to Smooth and you should have the 120 refresh rate.

Dave

Thanks much! Changed,, still getting the same effect

70% for me

goalerjones wrote in post #19152683
70% for me

70% is what they filled until now. At the bottom it states where is your order at.
But anyways, not very important. I was juts curious.

Those who went from the eos R and upgraded to the R5. Your thoughts?

venghous1 wrote in post #19152650
Thanks much! Changed,, still getting the same effect

Could you have your R set for continuous focus, and your R5 not?

Dave63401 wrote in post #19152691
Could you have your R set for continuous focus, and your R5 not?

Ahhhhhh, never thought of that.... will look after work tonight ... thanks so much

LATER EDIT: On second thought, I wasn't creating a smaller aperture as cleanly as I first thought; the actual apertures are a little deeper into the lens, and therefore you get a hybrid aperture/vignette or something along the spectrum, directly in front of the lens, but I am sure that the actual aperture is still taking a big hit. /EDIT

Interesting note: I just made a disk with a 25mm hole in it, and put it over my 400/4 X 2xIII = 800/8 front element, and the R5 still focused confidently. That's (800mm/25mm = f/32! The system based the maximum AF motor speed based on f/8, and it still worked with an actual f/32. Now I know why I shouldn't be surprised that the R5 and R6 will AF with the 800/11 and 600/11 lenses with the RF2x. Now, where are those 3x and 4x TCs?

Kenko used to make a Pro 300 DG 3x, but no longer does. It was poo-poo'ed, but much of that was probably based on focus problems with DSLRs, unrealistic shutter speeds, and the typical scenario of someone trying to use it with manual focus with a soft 75-300 zoom lens or such, which shows it limitations quickly with magnification. I think that a 1200/12 DO II combo created with a 3x could be quite usable.

James Crockett wrote in post #19152689
Those who went from the eos R and upgraded to the R5. Your thoughts?

Currently I'm not thrilled with the combination of IBIS/IS and my 100-500 for panning/tracking. I must admit I did not get out as much as I had liked to. Had a bit of a family medical emergency that pretty much wiped out a good portion of September and October. All the good birds are now gone and the weather has gone South so I won't get a lot of testing in. I don't mind shooting in cold weather but I hate testing in cold weather. Can't travel this winter because of COVID and that is where I get a lot of shooting in.

The IBIS and IS combo seems a little wonky. Great for stills. Next time I get out I'm going to shut the IS off. I have never shot without IS. I have read at Fred Miranda that Canon is aware and there will be a FW update? I'm not really sure about that as it came from one source. I'm hoping there is an update to be disengage IBIS and keep the IS running, which a few top birders have also stated at FM.

Up to post #47 are with the R. The rest are with the R5. I finally got a chance to go back to my Pelican spot. I would have liked to do an apples to apples comparison but they were gone.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1517173

I have yet to put my RF24-105 on the R5. I was going to use that lens on R exclusively but I'll get around to doing that.

I, John Sheehy wrote in post #19152851
LATER EDIT: On second thought, I wasn't creating a smaller aperture as cleanly as I first thought; the actual apertures are a little deeper into the lens, and therefore you get a hybrid aperture/vignette or something along the spectrum, directly in front of the lens, but I am sure that the actual aperture is still taking a big hit. /EDIT

Interesting note:

I edited that post. Read the first, added paragraph.

digital paradise wrote in post #19152893
Currently I'm not thrilled with the combination of IBIS/IS and my 100-500 for panning/tracking. I must admit I did not get out as much as I had liked to. Had a bit of a family medical emergency that pretty much wiped out a good portion of September and October. All the good birds are now gone and the weather has gone South so I won't get a lot of testing in. I don't mind shooting in cold weather but I hate testing in cold weather. Can't travel this winter because of COVID and that is where I get a lot of shooting in.

The IBIS and IS combo seems a little wonky. Great for stills. Next time I get out I'm going to shut the IS off. I have never shot without IS. I have read at Fred Miranda that Canon is aware and there will be a FW update? I'm not really sure about that as it came from one source. I'm hoping there is an update to be disengage IBIS and keep the IS running, which a few top birders have also stated at FM.

Up to post #47 are with the R. The rest are with the R5. I finally got a chance to go back to my Pelican spot. I would have liked to do an apples to apples comparison but they were gone.

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1517173

I have yet to put my RF24-105 on the R5. I was going to use that lens on R exclusively but I'll get around to doing that.

Are you talking adapted EF lenses here, or RF lenses? I have no RF lenses so far, and I have not been thrilled with either pure IBIS, or IS + IBIS with the R5 and EF-mount lenses, except that IBIS seems quite useful with manual lenses with no communication when the lenses are very long. I tried a 150-600 zoom with a taped 12mm tube to break communication, at 500mm x 2x, and dialed in 1000mm of IBIS correction, and got good results at 1/100s. With the 400/4 DO II at 800mm, it seems OK. Whenever I use short focal lengths, however, it is very disappointing, and almost seems like the R5 is not moving the sensor at all until it detects perhaps 2 pixels worth of correction have been warranted, and then jumps that much in a quantum motion. This results in ghosting. I am not sure that IBIS is helping EF-mount IS lenses much at all (especially shorter focal lengths), when both are used, and may actually be making matters worse, hence, I would welcome the ability to turn IBIS off when IS is on, whether the apparent quantum jumping is corrected in firmware for EF lenses or not.

John Sheehy wrote in post #19152913
Are you talking adapted EF lenses here, or RF lenses? I have no RF lenses so far, and I have not been thrilled with either pure IBIS, or IS + IBIS with the R5 and EF-mount lenses, except that IBIS seems quite useful with manual lenses with no communication when the lenses are very long. I tried a 150-600 zoom with a taped 12mm tube to break communication, at 500mm x 2x, and dialed in 1000mm of IBIS correction, and got good results at 1/100s. With the 400/4 DO II at 800mm, it seems OK. Whenever I use short focal lengths, however, it is very disappointing, and almost seems like the R5 is not moving the sensor at all until it detects perhaps 2 pixels worth of correction have been warranted, and then jumps that much in a quantum motion. This results in ghosting. I am not sure that IBIS is helping EF-mount IS lenses much at all (especially shorter focal lengths), when both are used, and may actually be making matters worse, hence, I would welcome the ability to turn IBIS off when IS is on, whether the apparent quantum jumping is corrected in firmware for EF lenses or not.

No I'm talking about the RF 100-500. I used my 100-400 II and adapter with the R for about a year. I sold my the 100-400 II before I got my R5 so I never not able to try it.

Just out of interest if Canon where to add an IBIS shut off option it still would have to be energized. If I shut the IS switch off on my RF lens IS still runs. It doesn't stabilize but it still runs until the power savings kicks in. That new IS tech (electromagnetic ?) works differently.

digital paradise wrote in post #19152919
Just out of interest if Canon where to add an IBIS shut off option it still would have to be energized. If I shut the IS switch off on my RF lens IS still runs. It doesn't stabilize but it still runs until the power savings kicks in. That new IS tech (electromagnetic ?) works differently.

Just got my R5.. so I’m still diving in the menu... I’ve heard that when a lens with an IS switch is on the camera... the IBIS control menu in the settings disappears? Is this true? So what does that mean? Ibis is not working when a is lens is on... or always working and you can’t control it?

venghous1 wrote in post #19152955
Just got my R5.. so I’m still diving in the menu... I’ve heard that when a lens with an IS switch is on the camera... the IBIS control menu in the settings disappears? Is this true? So what does that mean? Ibis is not working when a is lens is on... or always working and you can’t control it?

When the camera sees a lens that has IS, the switch on that lens is supposed to turn both IS and IBIS on and off in tandem; at least for adapted EF lenses. There is no option in the menu system; the switch on the lens is the only control.