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Jul 03, 2022 13:00 |  #5386

Well I've got great news. Canon replaced the main PCB in my R5 and I finally got time to take it out. Everything seems to be working great now. I plan to do some more shooting today and tomorrow.
Keeping my fingers crossed all the issues are behind me!




  
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Jul 03, 2022 13:27 |  #5387

bsiegler wrote in post #19399709 (external link)
Well I've got great news. Canon replaced the main PCB in my R5 and I finally got time to take it out. Everything seems to be working great now. I plan to do some more shooting today and tomorrow.
Keeping my fingers crossed all the issues are behind me!

Good to hear! I really think there were some QC issues with the first run hardware and later items got checked better.


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Jul 14, 2022 10:45 |  #5388

Is everyones R5s running smoothly after the latest firmware update, or has there still been reoccurring problems? Thanks for input from owners I found a lightly used R5 for a solid deal and want to pull trigger, but am hesitant with all the issues i have read on buying used with no warranty. Thanks for everyones input.


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Jul 14, 2022 11:43 |  #5389

IA40D wrote in post #19404392 (external link)
Is everyones R5s running smoothly after the latest firmware update, or has there still been reoccurring problems? Thanks for input from owners I found a lightly used R5 for a solid deal and want to pull trigger, but am hesitant with all the issues i have read on buying used with no warranty. Thanks for everyones input.

If its from a store and they have a 15 day or better return policy - jump on it - ensure latest FW and test the hell out of it with a couple different memory cards and any lenses you can put on, using the ef adaptor or extenders as you may or may not need.



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Jul 14, 2022 12:39 as a reply to  @ IA40D's post |  #5390

I bought an R5 last month. It came with firmware version 1.5. I immediately upgraded to 1.5.2. No problem so far. Have not seen any lockups. However I am not using it to its limits so my usage may not have triggered any bug if there is any.


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Jul 14, 2022 13:45 as a reply to  @ Immaculens's post |  #5391

Its from private sale but in person i could take a couple lenses and test, but the firmware is 1.3.1 he only used it 5 or so times since june 21. But it has control ring adapter and everything it came with new in box, a 128 cfast card and he will sell it to me for 2800 which i think is a good deal.


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Jul 14, 2022 14:04 |  #5392

I've had the R5 and R6 since they were released. I had a couple of lockups with the R6 with FW 1.5.1. Other than that, no issues with either body. I'm retired, and photography is a hobby. My usage is fairly light; maybe 10,000 images per year (mostly at airshows). I use RF lenses 95% of the time (I still have an EF 16-35 f/4).

BTW - say hello to Waterloo for us. We lived there 1976 - 1982. Both of our kids were born there. I worked for Deere at the Product Engineering Center in Cedar Falls. Last visited in 2018. Lots of fond memories of the area.


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Jul 14, 2022 15:52 |  #5393

IA40D wrote in post #19404392 (external link)
Is everyones R5s running smoothly after the latest firmware update, or has there still been reoccurring problems? Thanks for input from owners I found a lightly used R5 for a solid deal and want to pull trigger, but am hesitant with all the issues i have read on buying used with no warranty. Thanks for everyones input.

If possible... try using a teleconverter on it with an RF 100-500 if possible. I use a RF 1.4x on mine. While mine has been performing well, this past weekend I did experience some error 70s but only using the extender.
I have a new ticket open with Canon for mine...




  
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Jul 14, 2022 23:15 |  #5394

IA40D wrote in post #19404461 (external link)
Its from private sale but in person i could take a couple lenses and test, but the firmware is 1.3.1 he only used it 5 or so times since june 21. But it has control ring adapter and everything it came with new in box, a 128 cfast card and he will sell it to me for 2800 which i think is a good deal.

The price sounds fantastic. Including a control ring adapter? And a CFExpress card? Really good.

To answer your question, I did have some lockup issues early on. Got mine in August of 2020 and intermittently had lockups until FW 1.5.2, but occurrences decreased over time, with the exception of FW 1.5.1, which triggered some errors quite frequently. After 1.5.2 I have not experienced any issues, though I have been using it less frequently because I got an R3 in February.




  
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Jul 17, 2022 03:01 |  #5395

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We had a conversation about using Spot focus to pre-focus. Some of the top birders put out videos to use Spot and I questioned why. I used to have a link to article about Spot Focus by Rudy Winston but like it and many other excellent ones Canon cut all the links to them. I often mentioned "Precise is not the same as accurate" but had nothing to back as I was on the road. I was cleaning up some files on my desktop and realized I have PDF. Can't remember where I got it. The link I have to a non Canon site won't open page 2 for me and where this part is. It may be a Safari thing.

https://web.archive.or​g …ticles/2014/spo​t_AF.shtml (external link)

I did a screen shot of this on page 2. I'm not trying to tell anyone not use Spot as some members do and have good results. Read and decide for yourselves.
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Below is a more recent video with Rudy Winston on this subject. Start at around 25 minutes into the video where he explains spot vs single AF points. For me the AF names says it all for me "spot" AF (emphasis on the word spot)

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Jul 17, 2022 07:11 |  #5396

More on this AF method subject. When in face/tracking mode the square that lands on the face or eye is very small. Seems to be as small as the Spot AF method. So which AF method/point is face tracking then using? Clearly it isn’t the larger Single Point AF box.




  
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Jul 18, 2022 08:36 |  #5397

i-G12 wrote in post #19405532 (external link)
More on this AF method subject. When in face/tracking mode the square that lands on the face or eye is very small. Seems to be as small as the Spot AF method. So which AF method/point is face tracking then using? Clearly it isn’t the larger Single Point AF box.

The Face+Tracking Mode can work either with or without Eye Detection.

When Eye Detection is enabled the AF "square/s: behave in a different manner than with Face+Tracking alone.




  
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Jul 18, 2022 10:17 |  #5398

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The Face+Tracking Mode can work either with or without Eye Detection.

When Eye Detection is enabled the AF "square/s: behave in a different manner than with Face+Tracking alone.

OK. I have no idea what this means.

People complain that the One Point AF Isn’t a good mode for tracking fast moving objects but then these tiny squares associated with face tracking/eye detection are OK? :cry: -?




  
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Jul 18, 2022 10:25 |  #5399

i-G12 wrote in post #19405966 (external link)
OK. I have no idea what this means.

People complain that the One Point AF Isn’t a good mode for tracking fast moving objects but then these tiny squares associated with face tracking/eye detection are OK? :cry: -?

I have a strong feeling that the tiny little square around the eyeball being displayed isn't the only thing that's being used by the camera's complicated AF system. After all, the camera needs to first recognize something as a face before it can then say I see an eye. And as such, when the face moves across the FOV, the camera's AF knows the entire "face" is moving across the field and thus it is programed to recognize the face and then just show the eyeball where it tries to hone in focus.

Whereas, if you've dead-set on a single point focus, then you have limited the camera's AF sensor to a specific sector and anything that ventures out of it (unless you've enabled subject tracking to utilize the entire FoV), you're going to lose or the camera is going to jump.


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Jul 18, 2022 10:29 |  #5400

jwcdds wrote in post #19405970 (external link)
I have a strong feeling that the tiny little square around the eyeball being displayed isn't the only thing that's being used by the camera's complicated AF system. After all, the camera needs to first recognize something as a face before it can then say I see an eye. And as such, when the face moves across the FOV, the camera's AF knows the entire "face" is moving across the field and thus it is programed to recognize the face and then just show the eyeball where it tries to hone in focus.

Whereas, if you've dead-set on a single point focus, then you have limited the camera's AF sensor to a specific sector and anything that ventures out of it (unless you've enabled subject tracking to utilize the entire FoV), you're going to lose or the camera is going to jump.

Seems reasonable. Thanks.

Maybe that’s the difference between selecting face tracking and designating a different button for AF/Eye Detection. I’m still somewhat confused but as you said these cameras are complex.




  
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