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Jul 22, 2022 12:19 |  #5416

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Firmware 1.6.0 seems to be posted everywhere now. I downloaded from Canon US and installed it. I'm shooting an airshow tomorrow. I don't expect any issues, but I'll report them if there are. My R6 will be the backup body just in case...

For those interested:
Firmware Version 1.6.0 incorporates the following enhancements and fixes:
1. Adds [Auto Power Off Temp.: Standard/High] to the menu for movie recording. When [High] is selected, the camera will not automatically turn off when the temperature of the camera body and card become high, which may allow for longer movie recording than before, depending on the shooting conditions. Note that the temperature of the bottom surface of the camera may increase at this time.
2. Adds the ability to convert multiple HEIF images into multiple JPEG images.
3. Enhances the performance of "Movie Digital IS". It stabilizes the image when taking selfies or walking shots using a wide-angle lens.
4. Fixes minor issues.


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Jul 22, 2022 12:26 |  #5417

Snydremark wrote in post #19407580 (external link)
For those interested:
Firmware Version 1.6.0 incorporates the following enhancements and fixes:
1. Adds [Auto Power Off Temp.: Standard/High] to the menu for movie recording. When [High] is selected, the camera will not automatically turn off when the temperature of the camera body and card become high, which may allow for longer movie recording than before, depending on the shooting conditions. Note that the temperature of the bottom surface of the camera may increase at this time.
2. Adds the ability to convert multiple HEIF images into multiple JPEG images.
3. Enhances the performance of "Movie Digital IS". It stabilizes the image when taking selfies or walking shots using a wide-angle lens.
4. Fixes minor issues.

Pretty much Video related with the exception of the "mystery"- Minor Issue Fixes" ???




  
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Jul 22, 2022 16:15 |  #5418

Leigh wrote in post #19407583 (external link)
Pretty much Video related with the exception of the "mystery"- Minor Issue Fixes" ???


which, I hope equates to fixing some mystery freezes...



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Jul 22, 2022 19:15 |  #5419

Immaculens wrote in post #19407675 (external link)
which, I hope equates to fixing some mystery freezes...

"Fixes minor issues"? --- Let the guessing begin as to the imagined improvements or lack thereof. :lol:




  
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Jul 22, 2022 19:29 |  #5420

Leigh wrote in post #19407721 (external link)
"Fixes minor issues"? --- Let the guessing begin as to the imagined improvements or lack thereof. :lol:

This usually means "we cleaned up some typos and made lesser used features work better for 1 or 2 people"


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Jul 23, 2022 22:10 |  #5421

I've read a few comments of users shooting in the crop mode because eye-tracking locks onto distand subjects easier. That, to me, seems a very good argument to use the crop mode. If you are likely to be cropping heavy anyways - at least the 1.6 crop mode brings the action closer for better quicker autofocus and tracking.

For further subjects - are people using the 1.6 crop mode?



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Jul 23, 2022 22:40 |  #5422

Immaculens wrote in post #19408133 (external link)
I've read a few comments of users shooting in the crop mode because eye-tracking locks onto distand subjects easier. That, to me, seems a very good argument to use the crop mode. If you are likely to be cropping heavy anyways - at least the 1.6 crop mode brings the action closer for better quicker autofocus and tracking.

For further subjects - are people using the 1.6 crop mode?

I often use the 1.6 crop mode when I need the "reach" for the very reasons you stated.




  
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Jul 24, 2022 06:52 |  #5423

Immaculens wrote in post #19408133 (external link)
I've read a few comments of users shooting in the crop mode because eye-tracking locks onto distand subjects easier. That, to me, seems a very good argument to use the crop mode. If you are likely to be cropping heavy anyways - at least the 1.6 crop mode brings the action closer for better quicker autofocus and tracking.

For further subjects - are people using the 1.6 crop mode?

I have not.For stills. I clip too many wings as it is, so I want the ability to crop in where ever I need. Focus on distance subjects seemed to work fine for me.That said, I have read many people state the same thing. But I also just got an R7, so go figure!
I use crop mode in video a lot, for eagle nests ect. Seems great for 4K video on the R5.


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Jul 24, 2022 07:17 |  #5424

I got out yesterday to try the new R5 out. I discovered that the 3 ft MFD of my 100-400mmLII grew dramatically on the R mount. Gonna miss that but at least with the added megapixels I can crop in to get the detail that I'm used to.

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Jul 24, 2022 09:16 |  #5425

LJ3Jim wrote in post #19407579 (external link)
Firmware 1.6.0 seems to be posted everywhere now. I downloaded from Canon US and installed it. I'm shooting an airshow tomorrow. I don't expect any issues, but I'll report them if there are. My R6 will be the backup body just in case...

At the airshow yesterday, I took about 1500 images with the R5 (fw 1.6.0) and the RF 100-500. Everything worked perfectly.


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Jul 24, 2022 10:39 |  #5426

GAJoe wrote in post #19408222 (external link)
I got out yesterday to try the new R5 out. I discovered that the 3 ft MFD of my 100-400mmLII grew dramatically on the R mount. Gonna miss that but at least with the added megapixels I can crop in to get the detail that I'm used to.
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There is no difference in minimum focus distance. The EF->RF adapters put the lens the exact same distance from the sensor as with EF bodies.

Perhaps you are experiencing one of the downsides of many sensor-based AF systems; putting a large pupil close to a narrow subject that does not mask the background when that subject is very blurred; the camera may think that the background is the subject and focus on it instead of your subject. You may have to learn to use manual focus override to overcome this problem.




  
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Jul 24, 2022 11:42 |  #5427

John Sheehy wrote in post #19408314 (external link)
There is no difference in minimum focus distance. The EF->RF adapters put the lens the exact same distance from the sensor as with EF bodies.

Perhaps you are experiencing one of the downsides of many sensor-based AF systems; putting a large pupil close to a narrow subject that does not mask the background when that subject is very blurred; the camera may think that the background is the subject and focus on it instead of your subject. You may have to learn to use manual focus override to overcome this problem.

That explains it. I wasn't aware. What worked great on my 7DII will require time and effort on the R5. I was able to get the auto focus to work at MFD on a plain surface. I tried the manual focus and the focus guide helps. I don't see being able to quickly use it though as I was able to on my 7DII. Bummer:(


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Jul 24, 2022 11:49 |  #5428

GAJoe wrote in post #19408328 (external link)
I'll work on getting that sorted out then because that's one of my favorite uses of the 100-400 to get near macro results.

If you do eventually decide to upgrade that lens, be aware that not all lenses allow manual focus override, if you tie AF to the shutter button. I'm talking here about recent RF lenses; not old Canon ones or 3rd-party ones. The RF100/2.8 macro, for example, does not allow it!




  
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Jul 24, 2022 12:23 |  #5429

GAJoe wrote in post #19408328 (external link)
I'll work on getting that sorted out then because that's one of my favorite uses of the 100-400 to get near macro results.

As John says, the camera does not change your MFD, that's a function of the lens design. I suspect it's actually seeing the difference in APS-C vs 35mm/"full frame" sensors; I assume you're coming at the R5 from your 7DII? The larger sensor captures a wider field of view and therefore your subject appears smaller/farther away than you're used to seeing. This is, of course, an *extremely* simplified statement but one that I think should help you understand the changes. If you still have your 7DII available, I suggest the following:


  1. Set up a tripod and subject at a specific distance, using the same lens for each shot
  2. Mount the lens to your 7DII, mount the camera to the tripod
  3. Focus on your subject with the center AF point so you get the full effect of your field of view
  4. Take your APS-C reference shot
  5. Now mount the lens on your R5 and place on the tripod; making sure you don't move anything else in the setup and using the same focal length
  6. Again, center your subject and focus using the central AF point
  7. Take your "FF" reference shot
  8. Finally, go in to the R5 menu and set your Cropping/aspect ratio to 1.6, this will make the R5 emulate the APS-C capture by only utilizing the central portion of the sensor to make the capture
  9. Repeat the centering/focusing steps above
  10. Take your "crop mode" reference shot


When you are done, take your 3 reference shots and compare them side by side. The subject will be the same, relative size in your frames (measure the dimensions (height/width) not pixel count), but you will see more of the surrounding area in the FF shot and your subject will appear smaller. This is just due to the 7DII, effectively, doing the crop for you at the point of image capture; you will note a very similar result in the "crop mode" reference shot for the same reason. There will be some slight differences there due to the crop mode math on a 45MP sensor vs the native 20mp on the 7DII sensor, but it should be close enough for illustration purposes. Since I'm bored today and we have nice weather, I'm actually headed out to do the above myself just because I'm now curious how big the difference is between these two :p

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Jul 24, 2022 14:28 as a reply to  @ Snydremark's post |  #5430

Surely a typo by you, but anyway the 7DII has 20.2 mp not 24


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