R5 v/s R6- here they are. which for you and why ?

ct1co2 wrote in post #19106181
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There are 2 people local I know that have R5’s, both predominantly shoot wildlife, no video. One fires a LOT of frames (over 1K easily) any given day, is out 6-7 days a week shooting .....
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Would you be so kind as to PM me his name. . I know a lot of wildlife photographers in the greater Denver area, as I've been spending about 2 months a year there over the past 3 years. . I'm thinking there's a good chance that I know him ...... the wildlife photo fraternity is a pretty small world.


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idkdc wrote in post #19106168
It looks like with the R5 they’re going all in on mirrorless and eliminating the 5D V but maybe they will release a 5D V or R1 if there is enough demand or if overheating issues are a real concern. Also, if you’re not an early adopter, just don’t adopt early.

5D V with animal AF and 30-45 mp would do it for me!

mystik610 wrote in post #19106191
I wonder why they pushed forward with the release instead of going back to the drawing board.

Super easy question to answer. Its been kicking them in the balls for about 5 years now

Seems to me that "professional wedding photographers" are the problem here.

Seriously if I were to be in the market for this camera I think it would work great for me. When I shoot video it's in small spurts like less than 2 minute clips. I don't see how an overheating issue would ever affect the way I use a camera but maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, carry on!

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19106147
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I'm confused. . What does the lens have to do with the shutter's ability to operate? . I mean, the way it seems to me, a shutter should be able to go however fast it goes, and be unaffected by whatever lens one happens to have mounted on the front of the camera. . The two things seem to be unrelated to me. . So why is it that the lens can limit the shutter's ability to function at its full ability?

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Could it be that it has something to do with the speed and/or power needs of the aperture motor? Perhaps without the extra battery juice of the 1D series, power needs to be restricted more with inefficient or slow aperture motors?

umphotography wrote in post #19106141
When people start Really thinking about this heat and shortened lifespan with electronics issue......Its going to kill camera sales for this release

Its a well known fact......WTF is Canon Thinking ??

Everyone cancel your order. Mine will come faster.

i-G12 wrote in post #19106229
Seems to me that "professional wedding photographers" are the problem here.

Seriously if I were to be in the market for this camera I think it would work great for me. When I shoot video it's in small spurts like less than 2 minute clips. I don't see how an overheating issue would ever affect the way I use a camera but maybe I'm wrong.

Anyway, carry on!

I've had the temperature indicator light up at all but one wedding I shot with the R5. The first wedding I shot with it (July 31st) it was so new I probably didn't notice if the indicator came on or not.

I'm not worried about the WHITE temperature warning, I'm worried when I see the RED temperature warning. But that hasn't happened yet so as a still image photographer who regularly does short video jobs at 1080 24fps, I don't have any issues with the EOS R5 yet.


However, I do have some things I'd like to see changed on the R5 Mk2 and I'm building my list every day. I've talked about putting together a YouTube video when I transitioned from the 5D Mk4 to the EOS R but never did it. I think it's time I stop talking and actually do the video just to get it out there and see what issues/suggestions others might have after watching it.

5d series is dead, Canon has ended that line.

Choderboy wrote in post #19106076
A few lenses that do not support 12 fps mechanical shutter:

500 f4 L IS - OK, that's pretty old.
All Version 1 super teles including 800 f5.6 and 200 f2, which were released around the time of the rest of the II super teles.
400 2.8L IS II - I'd be unhappy if I owned one.
70-200 2.8L II - I'd be unhappy if I owned one.

I very much doubt Canon forgot to list any of these, 200 2.8 L II made the list and some other 'oldish' lenses.

So if those lenses can't be used at 12 fps, what frame rate will the R5 achieve with them?

I gotta wonder WHY any camera with mechanical shutter capable of 12fps might 'not support' any vintage lens?!

If the electronic focus command response of some lenses was limited in its rapidity, that might be responsible for not being able to 'follow focus' during a 12fps sequence.

Wilt wrote in post #19106304
I gotta wonder WHY any camera with mechanical shutter capable of 12fps might 'not support' any vintage lens?!

If the electronic focus command response of some lenses was limited in its rapidity, that might be responsible for not being able to 'follow focus' during a 12fps sequence.

But they work just fine at 16 to 20 FPS on the 1DX3

idkdc wrote in post #19106194
If I recall correctly, Sony A9 had this same warning in place, and they pushed the temperature threshold for the warning and/or shut off. I think it remains to be seen if this is the same scenario for Canon. If it is, then under the same train of thought, Sony should have gone back to the drawing board instead of releasing mark ii / iii / iv models.

Following up on the A9 overheat issue, it seems that Sony issued a firmware update which altered the temperature at which their overheating icon appeared...and that made the overheat issue disappear! There was not a 'fix' for overheating per se, simply make the set point of the warning be a higher temperature.

butterfly2937 wrote in post #19106309
But they work just fine at 16 to 20 FPS on the 1DX3

(question not aimed to butterfly2937 personally!)...So then why does a lens work fine at 16-20 fps with mechanical shutter 1DXIII, yet the lens supposedly fails with the R5 at 12fps?! Maybe having two processors in 1DXIII, while having one processor in R5, has something to do with it?!

Wilt wrote in post #19106310
Following up on the A9 overheat issue, it seems that Sony issued a firmware update which altered the temperature at which their overheating icon appear...and that made the overheat issue disappear! There was not a 'fix' for overheating per se, simply make the set point of the warning be a higher temperature.

Maybe Canon could do the same, but a different high-temp alarm threshold won't change the increased noise that accompanies a hot sensor.

Wilt wrote in post #19106311
So then why does a lens work fine at 16-20 fps with mechanical shutter 1DXIII, yet the lens supposedly fails with the R5 at 12fps?! Maybe having two processors in 1DXIII, while having one processor in R5, has something to do with it?!

Someone needs to test both mechanical and electronic with these lenses in question and report back.

Wilt wrote in post #19106310
Following up on the A9 overheat issue, it seems that Sony issued a firmware update which altered the temperature at which their overheating icon appeared...and that made the overheat issue disappear! There was not a 'fix' for overheating per se, simply make the set point of the warning be a higher temperature.

Yeah. Now they will only know when the camera fails to function that it died of overheating.
What a competent solution(?) Sony!!!