upgrade or new build..

my current desktop

i7 6800k
Asus Strix X99 motherboard
Asus Strix gtx 1070 8gb
32 Gigs -crucial dd4 2400
1TB Samsung 850 evo SSD
2TB Toshiba P300 HDD

Corsair 760t Case
Evga superNova 750watts
Corsair H110i liquid cooler

Aside from photos i do a fair amount of video editing,

the current setup is perfectly fine for photos , its the video work where i'm having issues.

A lot of what i do is music videos and so theres a lot of effects, as well as a lot of layers .. proxies help but , i'm constantly waiting on rendering and it slows me down.. although my final output is in 1080p , i'm captruring in 4k/24 and 4k/60 because i like the ability to confidently crop if needed .

the simple route would be to upgrade my cpu to the I7 6950x (10 core) .. and upgrade the gpu..
i'm no computer wiz, i had my last setup built for me.. but from what little research i did the platform i'm on is "old" and i highly doubt there will be more available upgrades.. basically the 6950x is as good as i can ever get..
the cost of the intel 6950x is a bit over $1G..

the other option is a new build..
AMD ryzen seems to give the best bang for my buck.. but for better than what i currently have its a $3000. minimum..(the parts i would be able to use from my current build are too few , i'd rather leave it complete and give it to my son)

ryzen 9 3950x (16 cores) and and 2080 super (if not 'ti'") im thinking will be a lot more future proof as i become more skilled at special effects in video.. currently i've hit a big wall with what i can do with special effects creativly because my desktop cant handle it..

i admit i want to build my first .. so perhaps i'm convincing myself but it seems that upgrading my current setup might be cheaper now but in the long run might not be as future proof as a new AMD/ryzen build ..

thoughts and opinions wanted..

thank you

A lot of programs have not been modernized to really take advantage of multiple cores.

So having multiple cores really only is an advantage if you simultaneously run multiple programs.

If you do not have them you might consider adding an expansion card with USB no3 ports.

Or change from hard drive for boot to SSD.

Why do you say this when the poster is saying he needs a better computer for video? Something that is better served with modern hardware that makes use of CPU and GPU cores: as well as the latest graphics cards that support hardware support for h.265 encoding for UHD. He already has a SSD as main drive. I was an Adobe video editor until recently. I do find that Adobe video apps are optimized pretty well for OpenGL (so if you're having issues of scrubbing with multiple layers in 4K, you might be served well with a Quadro card: to this day, I find better with OpenGL support).

OP, what software are you using? I actually ditched Adobe recently because it was crashing on my Mac setups. I then decided to try DaVinci Resolve (which is awesome as the video editor is completely free, and includes a nice FX editor that has more plugins if you want to pay for). Anyway, I have found the performance with Resolve to be better overall. Perhaps try that first. When it comes to rendering video, I've found it can be pretty dependent on video card as well.

Yes I'm already on a ssd.

Primarily on premiere and after effects.. and I use several plug ins that I can immediately tell puts a strain on my computer .

I did download DaVinci free version just to try it out though I admit feeling lost and confused (just because its new to me) had me going back to premiere pretty quickly, I've already have a work flow that works for me and so yeah ..learning curves suck lol..

My desktop is pretty stable with premiere but it does crash every now and then , oddly my newer slightly better spec laptop crashes a lot more

Some worthwhile info relative to multicore and Premiere Pro can be found at https://www.pugetsyste​ms.com …i5-7600K-Performance-884/.

thanks to all who responded..

decided to go with building a new setup..seems it will be a lot more future proof than updating my current.. and as i've said , i do want to build one

i may turn this into "my build page" ..

mother board arrivved today..

Your secondary (HDD) might still slow down entire performance.
Where are free utilities allowing to see CPU, GPU temperatures and load, in addition to HDD. To me it helped to upgrade instead of new.
Sometimes it is certain processes, applications taking CPU and RAM, it is visible even in the task manager.
I would search recommended hardware listed with software you are running. Not initial install, but current versions you are running. And compare it to what you have.

Without knowing where is the weak part in the hardware (CPU is at the max or memory or HDD is on 100% too often) and without knowing which application is taking resources most.... the upgrades, new might be waste full.

To me it also helped uninstall all of the software I was not using anymore. Before I started to even think about updated, new. It made enough difference. But some of applications are very sticky. I have to google how to remove traces of uninstalled VM.

With all of it done, I get rid of the glitches. And narrowed it to single point. For some reason, scanning software which came with the Plustek is causing computer freeze for few seconds. My next step is to check for software upgrade. Or plug it to back USB, instead of front

Very first thing for upgrades to check is mother board supported upgrades. I was lucky with HP to have such page on their site. Everything is listed in numerous versions and generations. Which and only RAM, CPU will works. Without it I previously failed with upgrades, just by buying something incompatible. And it is very easy to get screwed.

Building a new computer is always fun, and I have found the latest and greatest in CPUs and GPUs can have significant speed improvements (although for peak performance with video encoding is really dependent on the software's support for the video card's chipset: one thing to consider when siding with Nvidia vs AMD). Enjoy the build! RE SSD vs HD. When I'm encoding video, I do tend to do that via SSD and then transfer to my HDDs. With my 3D animation, I can render those stills on HDDs (each still is processor intensive and renders relatively small blocks to disc).

To follow up about DaVinci: what I like about it is that it's both a video editor and VFX compositor (and full fledged with the free version). I was primarily an AfterEffects user and did some projects in Premiere. I think if you're just coming from Premiere, it's actually not too hard to switch. My main thing was trying to find an alternative that ran on the Mac when Adobe products were crashing (good reason for me to dump Adobe ). Final Cut Pro didn't make sense to me. But with a little bit of effort, DaVinci made sense. I bought a couple DaVinci tutorials from Udemy (on sale for $15). The main workflow with DaVinci is that there's different modules in the bottom strip. If you're used to Premiere, the "Edit" module is very much like it. I could see how it's intended for a whole production staff: as "Edit" is a track editor...."Fusion" is for compositing...."Color" is color grading.

rantercsr wrote in post #19093410
thanks to all who responded..

decided to go with building a new setup..seems it will be a lot more future proof than updating my current.. and as i've said , i do want to build one

i may turn this into "my build page" ..

mother board arrivved today..

Shiny.


Whats going in it?

Moppie wrote in post #19093598
Shiny.

Whats going in it?

Went with amd ryzen 9 3950x for cpu.. and will probably go with Nvidia 2080ti, though it's not in stock , which is fine doing research as to whether the 'tip version helps in my case vs the 'super' which is a few hundred dollars cheaper

More parts arrived ..

these better all be compatible.. Pcpartspicker says they are

1tb m.2
2tb m.2

64 gigs of ram..
3950x .. 16 core processor.

unfortunaley due to the current situation around the world the power supply and graphics card will take another 2 weeks minimum..

rantercsr wrote in post #19093896
More parts arrived ..

these better all be compatible.. Pcpartspicker says they are

1tb m.2
2tb m.2

64 gigs of ram..
3950x .. 16 core processor.

unfortunaley due to the current situation around the world the power supply and graphics card will take another 2 weeks minimum..

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I'm kinda jealous. I built an i7 8700K based rig last year, about 3 months before all the new AMD stuff was released.
It's running at 5ghz, so is VERY fast, but with the extra through put AMD are getting, a 4.5ghz Ryzen seems to perform just as well, and you get more cores.

Moppie wrote in post #19094060
I'm kinda jealous. I built an i7 8700K based rig last year, about 3 months before all the new AMD stuff was released.
It's running at 5ghz, so is VERY fast, but with the extra through put AMD are getting, a 4.5ghz Ryzen seems to perform just as well, and you get more cores.

Buyer’s remorse is inevitable. The incubation period is about two weeks after receipt of your initial purchase.