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Jul 29, 2020 20:06 |  #1

I visited my daughter and her family the last few days in Virginia. We had lunch in a nice small diner. A few doors away was an antique store that I went in to look around.

They had a few pieces of confederate bills that caught my eye. My daughter lives in Petersburg, VA and they had a couple of bills printed from the Petersburg Bank I thought was pretty cool.

They had to hand sign every bill (as is all confederate money) along with writing in the serial number #23485 hand writing in the date 3 June 1861 (the 186 was printed, they hand wrote in the 1) then signature of the auditor all this on the left side of the bill in red ink.

The main text reads:

The City of Petersburg Virginia hereby pledges its faith for the payment of ONE DOLLAR to the bearer, which will be redeemed by the Chamberlaine in Virginia Bank Notes, when presented in sums of five dollars or it's multiple, and be receivable for it's licenses & other taxes, water rents, rents of City property & any debt whatever due or payable to the City. Issued in conformity with an ordinance of the Common Council passed 23 April 1861.

Signatures below: Chamberlain and Recorder. I am not sure what the names are.

To think they had to hand sign every bill, hand write everything on the left side must have been very time consuming! You can see the ink going thru the paper on the back side of the bill, but only the two signatures.

The One Dollar Petersburg Bill

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This next note, the 5 dollar bill... on the top left reads "Richmond" on the top right it reads "Mar 13, 1860" (it almost looks like 1869 to me, but that cannot be!)

The serial number 9790 is hand written on both sides of "Virginia Treasury Note"

Below that is printed "The Commonwealth of Virginia will pay TO THE BEARER on demand FIVE DOLLARS at the Treasury"

2 signatures (I think it reads) Aud, Pub Acct on left on the right side all I see is Treas (also hard to read)

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The 50 dollar note: the only thing handwritten are the 2 signatures at the bottom of the bill. The serial numbers are printed 22779 on left and right side.

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The 100 Dollar note: the serial number is faint but looks like 12389 in red ink (on left and right side under the N (with small 0.)

Under where it says "ONE HUNDRED DOLLARS" in smaller type is printed "WITH INTEREST AT TWO CENTS PER DAY"

The owner of the antique store told me, if the banker comes to you, and if you are a wealthy farmer, he would ask you something like this: "If you give me 2,000 dollars in confederate dollars, I will give you $2,000 dollars in american bills, PLUS I will pay you interest once each year"

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In RED above is the word "HUNDRED"

The stamps below are proof the farmer (or whoever) was paid each year

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Jul 29, 2020 21:02 |  #2

Very interesting notes there.



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Jul 29, 2020 22:51 |  #3

Charles, those are an interesting find. I think the names on the first bill are, approximately, J. B. Steven and [Something] Grigg. Where you typed "it's," they don't seem to have used an apostrophe. The top of the "s" sticks up (not uniformly in the whole text, but in some words), giving an impression of an extra mark.


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Jul 29, 2020 23:10 |  #4

Naturalist wrote in post #19101051 (external link)
Very interesting notes there.

Thank you ;-)a


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Jul 29, 2020 23:25 |  #5

OhLook wrote in post #19101092 (external link)
Charles, those are an interesting find.

Virginia being one of the "southern" states is an excellent choice for finding anything from the confederate years!

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I think the names on the first bill are, approximately, J. B. Steven and [Something] Grigg. Where you typed "it's," they don't seem to have used an apostrophe. The top of the "s" sticks up (not uniformly in the whole text, but in some words), giving an impression of an extra mark.

I think you are probably close on your thinking of the names here. The first name for Grigg is definitely hard to read.

The store had two Petersburg one dollar notes, the one I got was the better one. The other one the script was much fainter and much harder to read, and a lot more discoloration throughout the entire bill. It was an easy choice which one to take home for only $10 more! The owner did give me a very nice discount for buying 4 bills at one time ;-)a

There were more Confederate bills I would like to have also purchased, but I had a limit, and still went over my limit!! ;-)a


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Jul 29, 2020 23:46 |  #6

I forgot to mention on the $100 note, the owner told me a man brought in this bill a few months ago saying he found it at his grandparents house and did not want to keep it. It is in immaculate shape with very little discoloration and the print being so easy to read, it must have been kept in a book or something similar to keep it flat and clean looking.

Looking at the serial numbers on left and right side look slightly different being hand written. The left does look like 12389 where the right side looks like the 8 might be something different like a 5 but without the top horizontal line on the 5

The 8 on the left side of the note is more closed on the bottom "circle" with the top "circle" not a full circle but partially opened on the top left side.

The 8 on the right side of the note is not a full circle on the left bottom of the 8 and on the top right side of the "circle" is a sort of straight line only no circle on the top at all.

I just made a cut and paste of both numbers to show you for real what they look like - the top one it left side, bottom is right side.

Notice in the 2nd image the "2" for the year 1862 was hand written in ink

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Jul 30, 2020 00:18 |  #7

Here are the signatures for the One Dollar Note left side first

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Here are the signatures for the 5 Dollar Note left side first

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Here are the Signatures for the 50 Dollar Note left side first

I do not understand why these crops appear to be a bit out of focus....... They do not look that bad in real life!

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Here are the Signatures for the 100 Dollar Note left side first

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This is the LEFT Side of the One Dollar Note

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Jul 30, 2020 17:03 |  #12

Very interesting, please curate them well for future generations.




  
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Capn Jack wrote in post #19101490 (external link)
Very interesting, please curate them well for future generations.

Thank you Capn! That is my plan! ;-)a


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Jul 31, 2020 23:51 as a reply to  @ Inspeqtor's post |  #14

Senator Claghorn used to say "Save your Confederate Money, boys, the South shall rise again"


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Aug 01, 2020 00:13 |  #15

Very cool Charles! Good shots of those bills showing fine detail.


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