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clipper_from_oz wrote in post #19178494
one from yesterday at Falls Creek - Flame Robin

Beautiful!
They really are very pretty birds and you've captured this so nicely

Mybludog wrote in post #19178747
A couple of Rainbow Bee-eaters. The only Bee-eater we get in Australia

Very nicely photographed Russell.
They're beautiful birds too.

Bath time! Enjoy it a great deal.

Groom in the water, have a nice day.

Very nicely photographed Russell.
They're beautiful birds too.[/QUOTE]
Thanks Richard. This is the first year i've actually had a crack at the Rainbow's. Happy with the results so far .

SYS wrote in post #19177107
By the way, has either of you, or for anyone else, used your 1.4x TC + 1.6x crop mode?

Sure, why not, when the FOV is ridiculously large still with the TC, and you don't need the extra subject tracking room in the frame. Crop mode just cuts down on file size, and helps on a mirror-less camera by concentrating the AF and the metering to what is in that narrower area, and gives you a more magnified view by default.

Just be aware that you generally do lose some subject quality when you forget that you are in crop mode and zoom a zoom lens out wider because of it; you get the best results by using a bare zoom and the entire sensor over the range where you are not focal-length-limited. Zooms can make TC and crop mode decisions more complicated than prime lenses can.

digital paradise wrote in post #19177113
No but I tried it once with my R and 400 DO II and 2X. Handholding was not easy. The weather has been nice. Maybe I'll try I this week.

Crop mode when compared to cropping later makes no difference to needed shutter speed; you simply see any shake more in the 1.6x-magnified viewfinder of crop mode, but that should actually help if you use it as feedback to steady yourself more, rather than get anxious about it and shake more.

PinholeR5 wrote in post #19177128
I used to think that it was just as good to crop in post. However, I noticed that when I'm using Eye AF and the subject is small in the frame that it will have a hard time locking focus and when I switch to 1.6 crop, since the subject is larger in the frame, the AF system does a better job of nailing focus. I haven't tried this in the RF system since I don't have the 100-500 or RF TCs. I've used this technique with the 100-400 II and the Sigma 150-600C, mostly with the 1.4TC. I've done it with the Sigma and the 2x TC but not often. It generates a bit of a "lack of power" feel in post because you can't really crop anymore since it is "pre-cropped"(which annoys me) but the focus is better and the result, I believe, is better than simply doing all the cropping in post.

One a side note. One of the downsides I have noticed of using the crop mode is that since my current camera setup doesn't really indicate when I'm in crop mode (or the indicator is there and I simply don't notice it) I'll often forget that I put the camera in crop mode causing me to take many shots without realizing it is in crop mode. I keep asking myself "how didn't I notice the field of view change"? But, it does happen. Sometimes I only do a few shots without changing lenses in a session and only notice I was in crop mode when I'm in post. That is really annoying. I have to figure out how to fix that as well as mapping the crop mode to one of the buttons so I can switch in and out quickly. I know many folks have done this, I've just never gotten around to doing it

IMO, the best way to implement crop mode would be to integrate it into the the lens' zoom ring, where it clicks at max zoom, and beyond that, it engages digital zoom in steps. That way, you always have the optics working for you, but get the more useful EVF view and smaller files when you don't need the entire sensor, and you can always "zoom" to a comfortable FOV for tracking the subject. Prime lenses could have an added digital zoom ring (or use the control ring).

There may be a hardware reason for one fixed crop factor for video, but for stills, there is no practical reason not to have any size crop factor that you want.

SYS wrote in post #19177107
By the way, has either of you, or for anyone else, used your 1.4x TC + 1.6x crop mode?

I know your question was not to me but I use crop mode all the time with the 1.4x and 2x even more. No issues at all. I even do it on the fly from full frame to crop and back again.

WilsonFlyer wrote in post #19177327
Are you guys saying this thing puts a box around the crop as opposed to filling the screen with it? Wow. If that's true, just wow. That's ridiculous.

I haven't read all the pages yet after this, but this conversation makes no sense, IME. In crop mode, the R5 just magnifies the central APS-C area 1.6x in the viewfinder. The only things that do not magnify are the alternate aspect ratios, which come in the same choice set as the 1.6x crop.

Perhaps there is a setting not to magnify, and "box" the narrower FOV, instead, but I haven't seen such an option.

Yeah I always laugh when people would complain about exposure latitude with Canon cameras... this goes to show you that there's a lot of information there to be recovered if you got the original in the ballpark!

Nice work!

JayLT wrote in post #19178757
F35 coming in for landing at Luke AFB. I was about to toss this whole string as the exposure just looked to be a mess but decided to mess a bit with everything and I was surprised at how much range was left. I'll attach the original as well for fun. This was taken at 2PM on a very sunny day here in Phoenix, but it's hard to tell from the end result!

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqo​7yz R5__3241-Edit by Jay Cline, on Flickr

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqo​Sru R5__3241 by Jay Cline, on Flickr

0272 = $$$$$$$$ Sell it!

I think these are amazing and show how good the AF, your patience/expertise come together that despite being at crazy f-stops they are well executed!

When we have a dedicated 500 F4 RF mount = $$$

JayLT wrote in post #19178839
A few shots from Luke Air Force base with the 100-500 and RF 2x converter attached. The 2x converter is a bit much here, and I think the 1.4x converter is better suited instead, with the rare exception of a shot of a jet taxiing. At 1000mm the lens is at f/14, and even in the bright AZ sun I was still usually pushing ISO 1600-2500, add to that any atmospheric haze or heat and it does make it hard to get a sharp shot with good detail. Now, not impossible, just hard. Add to that, where I usually am the 600-1000mm range is too much so that made tracking pretty difficult as well.

The 600mm end was actually quite good, but again if I wanted that I would drop down to the 1.4 as it would be much more useable overall.

Would I use it for flight shots? No. Only if I really needed to and there was no other way. But overall I think the 1.4x and a bit of cropping would be a better solution
Would I use it for slower ground shots? Yes. On the right days (cool with a bit of cloud cover) you could get some nice clear shots with this at good distance I think and lower the shutter speed so that ISO isn't as much of an issue

So far the 2x, with the RF 100-500, does really well when you can control the shutter speed and have a slow/still subject. I think when Canon releases the RF "big white" lenses this thing will really shine though.

I'll be out this weekend at the wetland preserve and see how it does on some of the local birds...should be interesting.

1000mm, f/16, ISO 2500

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqr​f8L R5__7743-Edit by Jay Cline, on Flickr

600mm f/11 ISO 1000

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqn​tru R5__0272-Edit by Jay Cline, on Flickr

1000mm f/14 ISO 1600

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqn​tiD R5__0373-Edit by Jay Cline, on Flickr

This is 1000mm uncropped on an F35 coming in for landing. Needless to say it's a bit much and pretty hard to keep properly framed! When the subjects are close the detail is really good though

IMAGE LINK: https://flic.kr/p/2kqn​qqz R5__8279-Edit by Jay Cline, on Flickr

robamy wrote in post #19178923
I know your question was not to me but I use crop mode all the time with the 1.4x and 2x even more. No issues at all. I even do it on the fly from full frame to crop and back again.

So Rob tell me why you use 1.6 crop mode when using the 1.4 extender.?

When I got the R5 I thought about it( using the r5 cropped mode) for BIF and realised leaving it in full mode would help me better place/find the bird in viewfinder quickly vs the cropped mode . Basically for me/my eye finding the airborne bird in a viewfinder showing a 560mm telephoto field of view is tons easier and quicker than in a cropped mode 890/900mm field of view Am I missing something here as many people are running in cropped mode and I cant work out what the benefit is ...that is apart from maybe not having to crop in post which is difficult to do as I dont think Ive ever successfully cropped in camera for wildlife where I havnt needed to adjust later in PP.

Apart from that only other thing I could think of was the file size issue of a 45mp sensor at full frame however cRAW covers that somewhat so really not sure what the Killer app is for running in cropped mode?

Cheers

clean sharp images liking the colours .especially the second one which is framed nicely by the branches..

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