Would you rather buy an R7 ?

If you like the R6 and it fits your need, don't wait bc you might be waiting for eternity like I did:

I used own the 7D, for 9yrs. Beginning of 2018, I waited for the 7D mark iii. at beginning of 2020, I caved in and bought 7Dii. For nearly two years, I used the original EOS M w/ EF adapter and missed out a bunch of shots; just a horrible camera to replace the 7D.

rndman wrote in post #19104530
If canon comes out with R7, mirrorless equivalent of R5/R6 but APS-C with resolution around 30MPX.
Assuming all the good stuff of the AF from R5/R6 is there and ergonomics is same.
Dual SD card slot? 10 fps mechanical shutter etc. etc.
May be only 1080P video (Keep it photographer's camera)
Would you rather pick R7 ?

Trey T wrote in post #19148049
If you like the R6 and it fits your need, don't wait bc you might be waiting for eternity like I did:

I used own the 7D, for 9yrs. Beginning of 2018, I waited for the 7D mark iii. at beginning of 2020, I caved in and bought 7Dii. For nearly two years, I used the original EOS M w/ EF adapter and missed out a bunch of shots; just a horrible camera to replace the 7D.

You said you bought 7DII. But then you talk about EOS M adapter.
Did you buy an M and did not like? Which was it?

Definitely maybe.

It would have to be able to replace my 7Dii. I've tried using my M5 for action and it tracks OK once it gets started, but it's slow to get the initial focus lock. I realize the M5 is 4+ year old tech and it's not an action camera, and I haven't been following the user reports on the R5/R6 so this may already be a non-issue.

Another factor I haven't seen mentioned yet in this thread is lenses. I don't mind adapting EF teles, but I'd want to see a decent RF normal lens with an appropriate zoom range for APS-C. Make an RF version of the 15-85, with an updated optical formula, no slower than the current one, Improved IS, and keep it USM not STM, and I'll be very interested.

Current rumor mill has an R7 coming in late 2021 (Caveat emptor; The same rumor mill said the M50ii would be 32MP less than two weeks before it was announced).

Mike

I probably would have if Canon had come out with it sooner, I had an M3 and it was my least favorite camera by a large margin, my Panasonic G7 with a Kipon AF adapter worked better with my Canon lenses than my M3.

An R7 at the same price point of the 7DmkII / Nikon D500 at launch would have been great, a $4000 R5 is a horrible option for people who aren’t making money in photography. A $2000 dollar R7 would leave much more room in the budget for lenses. I never used ef-s lenses on my 50D or 7DmkII, so a lack of RF-S lenses would not matter one bit to me. I used a full frame camera for the wide end and a crop for the long end

I sold all my Canon stuff off and bought a new Nikon D500 and lightly used D810 and I am very happy with them.

Not sure why everyone would get excited about a 1.6 sensor

Cant we do this with programming now v/s inventing a new sensor ??

Not getting this. What am ai missing

But all that said

It might be in the field

https://www.digitalcam​eraworld.com …U58mH-WS9Hmg2fvOVIxI4RIPc

umphotography wrote in post #19168288
Not sure why everyone would get excited about a 1.6 sensor

Cant we do this with programming now v/s inventing a new sensor ??

Not getting this. What am ai missing

What you are missing is the pixel density and the further cropability that comes with it.

umphotography wrote in post #19168288
Not sure why everyone would get excited about a 1.6 sensor

Cant we do this with programming now v/s inventing a new sensor ??

Not getting this. What am ai missing

Cost. Making a sensor that has over 2.5x the surface area (for a full frame sensor) will still come at a much higher price than an APS-C sensor.

You can crop with software to give the same angle of view of an APS-C sensor, but as others have noted - it reduces resolution (approx 2.5x reduction). Of course, you could make the full frame sensor with 2.5x the original resolution in order to make APS-C crops competitive (vs APS-C sensors), but then you have a full frame sensor with huge resolution (likely leading to even more cost).

At some point in the future it may be that the cost increase of a full frame sensor (vs APS-C) becomes such a small part of the overall camera cost that this no longer becomes a factor, and full frame resolutions end up so high that the whole sensor is pushing the optical limits of the glass; at which point there probably would be no point (other than size) to use an APS-C sensor.

umphotography wrote in post #19168288
Not sure why everyone would get excited about a 1.6 sensor

Cant we do this with programming now v/s inventing a new sensor ??

Not getting this. What am ai missing

Because an R5 is $3899 and still has lower pixel density than a 7D mark II, for the difference in price you can buy a really nice lens.
An R7 at around $2000 would be great.

I imagine an R7 type camera would come from Canon as Fujifilm seems to be getting a good share of this tight market with their XT series.

Canonuser123 wrote in post #19168468
Because an R5 is $3899 and still has lower pixel density than a 7D mark II, for the difference in price you can buy a really nice lens.
An R7 at around $2000 would be great.

An R7 won't be 2000. If the R6 is $2500, the R7 will likely be at or a higher price tag. This would also then allow Canon to make a speedbooster that could be used with the crop sensor as another profit margin product.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19169145
An R7 won't be 2000. If the R6 is $2500, the R7 will likely be at or a higher price tag. This would also then allow Canon to make a speedbooster that could be used with the crop sensor as another profit margin product.

I said around $2000 would be great, a price equal to or higher than an R6 doesn't make sense to me when it might be basically an R6 with a smaller, cheaper to manufacture sensor in it.

Canonuser123 wrote in post #19169410
I said around $2000 would be great, a price equal to or higher than an R6 doesn't make sense to me when it might be basically an R6 with a smaller, cheaper to manufacture sensor in it.

I don't know how an R7 can distinguish itself from the pack in the way the 7D did, if it doesn't have more pro body, better FPS, better AF etc. Which seems really unlikely in the case of an R7.

But if it did, then it would be superior to and cost more than an R6 just as it cost more than a 6D.

A new smaller sensor with a greater pixel density won’t be cheaper to manufacture than the R6 sensor that is shared with the 1dx3.

It will be more costly coupled with new programming/firmware etc.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19169578
A new smaller sensor with a greater pixel density won’t be cheaper to manufacture than the R6 sensor that is shared with the 1dx3.

It will be more costly coupled with new programming/firmware etc.

An APS-C sensor is much smaller area wise than a full frame sensor, you get many more sensors per wafer that way.
We are all just guessing on cost anyway, only Canon knows for sure.