-= Canon EOS R6 owners unite! Post photos and discuss.

From my wetlands trip this morning. R6 with control ring adapter, 100-400 II, 1.4x III. This is a roughly 70% crop.

LJ3Jim wrote in post #19133762
I don't have an ISO explanation, but I do shoot at 3:2 aspect ratio on both the R5 and R6.

due to lower sensor resolution, you have larger photosites (since there are fewer pixels on the sensor, each pixel can be larger and thus gather more light) which results in the R6 boasts having a larger ISO range of 100-102,400

Just put the files side by side. Forget about all the downsizing nonsense....USE YOUR EYES....pretty easy to see which sensor does better with ISO performance. This R6 is impressive and thats what initially got me interested in the camera. The all white seagulls and Black egret shots posted by Levina above have sealed the deal for me...detail and ISO performance are killer on this R6 and those images....we are talking exceeding D5 territory...this is beyond expectations....I am really floored and excited now.

Look at the 64000 ISO files.....thats not a typo....64000......wow​zers

I really like the R5 for the top screen and bigger files for crop needs.....But Its never going to be this clean as compared to the R6 at 25000 and 51000 ISO.....This gives me better photo opportunities as a wildlife shooter when wildlife is most active.....I have been in ambient light shooting eagles when F/2.8 @ 1/640 at 6400 ISO on the 1Dx2 was 2/3 underexposed and the eagle shots had too much noise at 100% to be usable....needed much noise clean in post.....R6 is going to dive me 2 more stops.....All you need to do is look at the 25000 and 51000 ISO files on these R6 images being posted by Levina and compare to D5 25000 ISO shots........Im blown away

umphotography wrote in post #19133803
due to lower sensor resolution, you have larger photosites (since there are fewer pixels on the sensor, each pixel can be larger and thus gather more light) which results in the R6 boasts having a larger ISO range of 100-102,400

Just put the files side by side. Forget about all the downsizing nonsense....USE YOUR EYES....pretty easy to see which sensor does better with ISO performance. This R6 is impressive and thats what initially got me interested in the camera. The all white seagulls and Black egret shots posted by Levina above have sealed the deal for me...detail and ISO performance are killer on this R6 and those images....we are talking exceeding D5 territory...this is beyond expectations....I am really floored and excited now.

Look at the 64000 ISO files.....thats not a typo....64000......wow​zers

I really like the R5 for the top screen and bigger files for crop needs.....But Its never going to be this clean as compared to the R6 at 25000 and 51000 ISO.....This gives me better photo opportunities as a wildlife shooter when wildlife is most active.....I have been in ambient light shooting eagles when F/2.8 @ 1/640 at 6400 ISO on the 1Dx2 was 2/3 underexposed and the eagle shots had too much noise at 100% to be usable....needed much noise clean in post.....R6 is going to dive me 2 more stops.....All you need to do is look at the 25000 and 51000 ISO files on these R6 images being posted by Levina and compare to D5 25000 ISO shots........Im blown away

Thanks for that explanation Mike.

umphotography wrote in post #19133803
Just put the files side by side. Forget about all the downsizing nonsense....USE YOUR EYES....pretty easy to see which sensor does better with ISO performance.

Do you mean with each zoomed in to 100% the R6 is obviously better?

If that's the case then it won't necessarily give you any better wildlife opportunities at all as the final viewed image might be exactly the same from each camera.

umphotography wrote in post #19133748
Im keeping my 1Dx2 body. Im getting the mirrorless for the technology and wildlife needs. I still plan on keeping my DSLr's

I think many will do the same

Mike, I sold my 1DxII before the prices went too low and before R5 specs were officially out. For lack of a better phrase, I put all of my eggs in the R5's basket. It checks most of the boxes but not all. With no bookings to worry about until pandemic is under control here, there is no rush to buy a new body. Good opportunity to see what 5Dsr can do for wildlife. Worst case scenario, I will get an R6 when weddings start next year and that will do until the at the moment hypothetical R1 sees the light of day.

Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19133754
Crazy gulls. At least they're the same test subjects, in the same spot on the same ridge, so that helps.

I was thinking that using these high ISO speeds at sunset will probably yield somewhat different results, Mike. The light I had was not very good. It rained, it was dark, etc. But light was cool. Near sunset light gets hot. And that often generates more noise. Still, I too am just amazed at how clean this sensor is. Of course my best camera was a 1DIV, so I just stepped into a different world with the R6.

I come from a 1DIV and also still have a 1DIII. I thought I would keep them, but now there seems little point to it so I'm going to sell them. In time I might get a nice used 1DXII though. I can totally see one in my future.

As to the R6. I miss the top lcd. I keep looking at it and it isn't there. But I'll get used to it. I might get a grip next year, at the start of the birding season. I think it'll be nice to have one, maybe make it feel more like a 1D body? And the added battery power would also be nice.

I had a rocky start with the R6. Very unhappy after my first outing. But then I came here, got help with settings and now I'm really happy with the camera. I just need to get better with BIFs. So I will continue to practice this winter. And this is a different camera. Feels different than a 1D body so things are suddenly not as easy. I have to think about which button to press now, which dial to turn. With the 1D4 that was second nature. But practicing will develop muscle memory. At least I'm counting on that because I have to shoot swallows in flight next Summer!

Thank you fo sharing your thoughts.

LJ3Jim wrote in post #19133767
I got rid of my 1DX2. I bought it about 4 years ago primarily for IQ. Both the R5 and R6 have as good or better IQ than the 1DX2. So I don't miss mine.

I got the R6 about a month before the R5 (which came just a few days ago). When I first got the R6, the lack of the top lcd bothered me a lot. But there's so much information on the back screen, that I quickly stopped looking for the top lcd. When the R5 came, I found myself still using the rear screen rather than the top lcd. I guess I need to become accustomed to the top screen again!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts. For event shooting with two cameras, top LCD gives me an opportunity to quickly match/compare settings.

AcademicNomad wrote in post #19133833
Thank you for sharing your thoughts. For event shooting with two cameras, top LCD gives me an opportunity to quickly match/compare settings.

I just noticed this -- with the R5 top screen, you have to toggle between 2 screens of information to see everything you see in a single 5D4 or 1DX2 screen. The rear LCD shows everything all at once. I can't say I prefer that yet, but I'm getting closer...

The lack of top screen almost stopped me getting the R6. But now I have it a few weeks, I don't miss it at all.
Funny how quickly you can adapt after many, many years of having a top screen.

I have mine set to show the black Info page on the back screen and the DOF preview button set to power off the screens.

I do wish if you trigger the sensor to switch on the EVF it would leave the back screen off after. I know you can set a button to toggle the screens. But the same thing occurs if you trigger the EVF.

I was up at an ungodly hour today and saw an opportunity to try out the camera's highest ISO speed, which is ISO 102400. Taken around dawn. And just for fun.

EDIT: AMASS says ISO 51200 but it's wrong. It was taken at ISO 102400!!

The original file, cropped to 2106px at the long end.

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Wait. 51200 is the highest ISO setting?

By the way, anybody with a 400/5.6L having problems using it on the R6? My 400mm doesn't seem to work properly. Images are out of focus or just plain soft. I can't get a bird in flight with that lens. I put on the 300/4L and it's brilliant. The 800/11 too, obviously. So it has to be the lens.

i-G12 wrote in post #19134016
Wait. 51200 is the highest ISO setting?

No, AMASS has it wrong. The exif here says ISO 51200 but it was taken at ISO 102,400!!
It had it wrong before, where it said ISO 51200 in the metadata but it was ISO 64000 instead.

Looks like AMASS can't read anything beyond ISO 51200!
I will report it to Pekka.

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Levina de Ruijter wrote in post #19134018
No, AMASS has it wrong. The exif here says ISO 51200 but it was taken at ISO 102,400!!
It had it wrong before, where it said ISO 51200 in the metadata but it was ISO 64000 instead.

Looks like AMASS can't read anything beyond ISO 51200!
I will report it to Pekka.

So 102400. Wow. Get help Levina.