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Aug 28, 2020 14:52 |  #1

I am working on capturing images from different angels, heights, etc, and in many cases cannot be at the camera. Cables are messy too. Is there any particular wireless remotes that people like or hate? There are many choices and I am sure most are good. My luck would be to choose the one that is bad.

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Aug 28, 2020 15:06 |  #2

Pick one using radio signal, NOT optical IR data transmission!

Look at the specification for Range...this varies a lot between different brands/models. Some show ranges like 80m (about 260'), another might only reach 10m (33')

And, of course, it needs a compatible connection to the input on your camera!


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Aug 28, 2020 15:23 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #3

Thanks. I figured with IR I would spend more time trying to get the beam to the camera if I could get it there. I found a few relatively inexpensive that have a good enough range. I am just always concerned about a bad / cheap device. Unfortunately the era of local camera shops and discussions is really gone.


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Aug 28, 2020 15:49 |  #4

I use the Pixel Pro TW-283 and TW-283RX. The system works great, is easy to use and the batteries last for ages. Be sure to get the correct cable for your camera. The only problem I had was when using flash in the hotshoe of the camera the recevier was left dangling by the cable so I put some velcro on it and on a tripod leg which solved the problem. I use mine for real estate and astrophotography.


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Aug 28, 2020 20:26 |  #5

Thanks for the input. I was looking at the Pixel model and also a Vello; however, they physically look and sound the same. I am going to give the Pixel a try.


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Aug 29, 2020 02:27 |  #6

For years I used a cheap and simple wireless flash trigger as camera remote. It only tripped the shutter, but it very small and easily fit in the palm of my hand.

The 7D uses an N3 connector, so if you already have a wireless trigger with a 3.5mm jack on it, then all you need is a 3.5mm to N3 cable with a half press lock on it. Phottix used to make one, but having a look around it appears to be discontinued.
If you can't find one, then you do need a dedicated trigger than can do the half and full shutter press remotely.

I use a Phottix Aion which is very similar to the pixel and it works very well and has been very reliable.

Just make sure what ever model you get, it comes with the N3 cable, as there are bunch of different connectors for different cameras across the brands.


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Aug 29, 2020 02:32 |  #7

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Pick one using radio signal, NOT optical IR data transmission!

Look at the specification for Range...this varies a lot between different brands/models. Some show ranges like 80m (about 260'), another might only reach 10m (33')

And, of course, it needs a compatible connection to the input on your camera!


I can't think of any after market shutter releases using a receiver and transmitter than use IR. And only the Canon rebel/kiss/xxxxD cameras have a built in IR receiver and usually ship with a canon remote. Although there are plenty of aftermarket replacements as it's easily lost.
It actually works very well, except in direct bright sunlight where it can still work.

I wouldn't worry about the range, generally all the receiver/transmitter remotes work on 2.4ghz and will have an effective range of well over 100ft with out any obstructions. The box may say something different, but since they all use the same underlying technology any difference is marketing making stuff up.


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Aug 29, 2020 15:17 |  #8

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I wouldn't worry about the range, generally all the receiver/transmitter remotes work on 2.4ghz and will have an effective range of well over 100ft with out any obstructions. The box may say something different, but since they all use the same underlying technology any difference is marketing making stuff up.


I have two radio remotes for my Canon cameras. One is a fairly short range (about 100') while the other easily goes past that distance.
As I told OP, I found the description for one on Amazon did say 10m limit, with others stated 80m range. The son-in-law of a friend has a radio remote that is even shorter range than my lowest distance remote trigger, so I always use my trigger when we vacation together in Yosemite each winter and gather on the same giant rock with a few dozen people on top for a group shot.
There IS a DIFFERENCE!, in what I bought and in what is advertised.


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Sep 03, 2020 14:29 |  #9

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I am working on capturing images from different angels, heights, etc, and in many cases cannot be at the camera. Cables are messy too. Is there any particular wireless remotes that people like or hate? There are many choices and I am sure most are good. My luck would be to choose the one that is bad. Canon 7D MKII
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I recommend using WIFI to pair your 7D2 to your smartphone, instead of using a traditional remote. . With a smartphone, you have so much more control over the camera and its settings than you have with a remote shutter release. . You can change settings and change your focus point using touchscreen focus. . You can also view the images you just took on your phone, so that you know if you nailed the shot or if you need to make an adjustment and shoot it again.

Surprisingly, it seems that the 7D2 does not come with built-in WIFI connectivity ..... that is weird. . Even my 6D, made in, like, 2012, has built-in WIFI. . Anyway, I think that all you have to do to get your 7D2 and your phone talking to each other is to buy this little device:

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Sep 03, 2020 14:54 |  #10

YongNuo 605s are perfect. Not only that, they have emulation modes for the 602/603 modes too, which means you can actually set up a 2nd camera and have it trigger when you take a shot with the other camera, which is nice when you want a very fluid dynamic view with one camera and a set perspective with another fired at the same time. Also flash triggers as well...These are the most versatile of all the RF remotes I have tried with the 7D2.


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YongNuo 605s are perfect. Not only that, they have emulation modes for the 602/603 modes too, which means you can actually set up a 2nd camera and have it trigger when you take a shot with the other camera, which is nice when you want a very fluid dynamic view with one camera and a set perspective with another fired at the same time. Also flash triggers as well...These are the most versatile of all the RF remotes I have tried with the 7D2.

I disagree with Tom's idea, only if you want immediate firing when you hit a button. WIFI and BT transmissions are flaky at best and laggy. I have run through IR, wifi, and RF remotes, and RF remotes are the most reliable and fast reacting.

However I agree with Tom, if you want to use a remote app to see what the 7D2 sees. That is indeed an option, and I have used that. However you need to buy a special wifi SD card from Canon to make that work, as Tom points out and he has the correct card linked. However when I used that for sports, by time I hit the phone shutter button, and the camera fired (within feet of me), the action was over. Going to the YN was much better and almost instant, and I gained the benefit of placing the camera up behind the backboard and having it fire when I fired my 5D4 which was awesome.


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Sep 03, 2020 15:27 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #12

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I had wonderful lightning-quick responsiveness when I used the WIFI between my smartphone and my 6D. . But then again I was only about 30 feet from the camera (shooting wild ducks). . It makes sense that if you are further away, then the response time could be slow and/or variable and/or unreliable.

Unfortunately, I only have a small sample size of experiences to draw from, as I have not used the WIFI feature enough. . I really have to get the WIFI set up between my smartphone and my 5D4 and wee what it is like. . I'd like to test out different distances to find out for myself how far away I can trust it to work with perfect responsiveness.


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I had wonderful lightning-quick responsiveness when I used the WIFI between my smartphone and my 6D. . But then again I was only about 30 feet from the camera (shooting wild ducks). . It makes sense that if you are further away, then the response time could be slow and/or variable and/or unreliable.

Unfortunately, I only have a small sample size of experiences to draw from, as I have not used the WIFI feature enough. . I really have to get the WIFI set up between my smartphone and my 5D4 and wee what it is like. . I'd like to test out different distances to find out for myself how far away I can trust it to work with perfect responsiveness.


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It may depend on how much wifi is in the environment you are in. In an arena with countless wifi signals, behavior can vary. Wifi can be ok, but again right at the time a dunk is taking place and I hit the button (sitting under the basket with the camera behind the backboard), the camera doesn't fire immediately in my situations. Also, I got to the point I don't want to see what the camera is seeing remotely to take the shot, I just want to set up the camera and just fire off shots as needed. I am not sure of the exact situation that prompted this thread however.

Bluetooth is as bad as IR, maybe sometimes worse, thus I never talk about those two options.

The YN605 are the best wireless triggers I have used, and I have used several, going back to the Phottix days. I am usually not a huge fan of Yongnuo products, but this particular transceiver has been wonderful.


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Sep 03, 2020 16:08 |  #14

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It may depend on how much wifi is in the environment you are in. In an arena with countless wifi signals, behavior can vary.
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That must be why the WIFI connection worked so well for me. . I was out in nature where there were (presumably) no other WIFI signals to interfere with mine. . No other people around with cell phones or anything else that could throw things off. . I'm thinking that if you're in a remote area with no cell service, then you're probably pretty safe from interference.

I can only imagine that in a basketball arena there would be - potentially - thousands of signals going through the air that could interfere!


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Sep 03, 2020 16:11 |  #15

That was my working theory for what I was seeing! Could be the iphone too, I dislike iphones but that is what I have to carry for now. :)

In the end, being able to shoot action with my 5D4 and have the 7D2 shoot the same action from a different perspective was so much better for me. Lost that capability when I sold the 7D2 and bought the M50. :(


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