WOULD LIKE SUGGESTIONS ON NEW LANDSCAPE CAMERA

I am an amateur photographer who is considering an upgrade to my current camera. I shoot mostly intimate landscapes and nature abstracts. The camera I am using is a Canon 1Dsmkii but it has one drawback that I would like to overcome. At times I use ISO400 because I shoot in the woods where there often times is not a lot of light. The newer camera to me should be able to shoot ISO800 up to an including ISO6400 and still produce good quality images.
Because I shoot Canon, I would be looking at a Canon DSLR and a used one at that. There are so many models of Canon cameras I am unsure which would be the best for my needs. Any landscape photographers using a Canon DSLR for their shooting please advise me as to which you feel is the best for that genre. The latest Canon models are too expensive but perhaps there are a couple of FF models that could give me what I am looking for. Thank you for any and all suggestions.

Regards,

Tim

raven4ns wrote in post #19118334
I am an amateur photographer who is considering an upgrade to my current camera. I shoot mostly intimate landscapes and nature abstracts. The camera I am using is a Canon 1Dsmkii but it has one drawback that I would like to overcome. At times I use ISO400 because I shoot in the woods where there often times is not a lot of light. The newer camera to me should be able to shoot ISO800 up to an including ISO6400 and still produce good quality images.
Because I shoot Canon, I would be looking at a Canon DSLR and a used one at that. There are so many models of Canon cameras I am unsure which would be the best for my needs. Any landscape photographers using a Canon DSLR for their shooting please advise me as to which you feel is the best for that genre. The latest Canon models are too expensive but perhaps there are a couple of FF models that could give me what I am looking for. Thank you for any and all suggestions.

Regards,

Tim

The 6D is still a competitive camera to today's models, even the 5D4, if you are on a budget. It is probably the best bang for the buck out of the list I have in this reply when it comes to IQ.

The EOS RP is also a good option and basically mirrors the 6D2 in IQ, in a smaller package. Or there is the 6D2...

The more expensive options will be the 5D4, EOS R, 1DX and 1DX2. All of these have great DR and ISO performance, better than the camera you have today.

https://photonstophoto​s.net …ark%20II,Canon%​20EOS%20RP

raven4ns wrote in post #19118334
I am an amateur photographer who is considering an upgrade to my current camera. I shoot mostly intimate landscapes and nature abstracts. The camera I am using is a Canon 1Dsmkii but it has one drawback that I would like to overcome. At times I use ISO400 because I shoot in the woods where there often times is not a lot of light. The newer camera to me should be able to shoot ISO800 up to an including ISO6400 and still produce good quality images.
Because I shoot Canon, I would be looking at a Canon DSLR and a used one at that. There are so many models of Canon cameras I am unsure which would be the best for my needs. Any landscape photographers using a Canon DSLR for their shooting please advise me as to which you feel is the best for that genre. The latest Canon models are too expensive but perhaps there are a couple of FF models that could give me what I am looking for. Thank you for any and all suggestions.

Regards,

Tim

Fairly short list given the criteria above:
6DII
5D3
5D4

The 5D4 being the sure bet, but either of those other two *should* give you solid performance you're looking for, as well. I haven't used the first two, personally, but I won't even blink at using 6400 on the mk4 for about anything. I'd check out the refurb prices in the Canon shop to see how those are for you. Heck; depending on what other features you may expect in the body, you may even be able to get away with a 5D2 giving you better noise management. Which would certainly not break the bank at this point.

Thank you for your suggestions, I appreciate them.

Interesting question for me as well. Glad that you asked it.

I too am a amateur/hobbyist photographer. I currently use all crop sensor cameras, T3i, 7D and 7DII. Much of my shooting is for outdoor sports like track & field and cross country. But I also like to try my hand at landscape and some fairly simple wildlife shooting. I sometimes wonder if my landscape shots, especially sunrise/sunset photos might benefit from a full frame camera. I have a few EF lenses that could be pressed into duty on a full frame body. I would probably stick with my 7D II for sports as it works great for that (for me).

With the new offerings out there, it is hard to choose. The R5 is probably out of reach, price wise but the other cameras that have been mentioned could be in play. Part of me thinks that for the non-sports use, a 6DII would be fine. I probably need to try to rent a few of the options and try them myself. One thing about a 5DIV is that it could certainly do sports if I wanted to whereas some of the other options might not be able to be pressed into service in that way.

With a good lens, that 7D2 will do landscapes pretty nicely. Focal length, detail rendering, resolution/pixel density and DR are the four things that play a big part in a good landscape shot. Lenses take care of the first 2, the last two are up to the camera.

The 7D2 has pretty decent DR and has the same pixel density as the 5Ds, so it really isn't a bad camera for landscapes. Just get the right glass.

That is probably my issue now as most of my glass purchases have been with an eye towards sports.

Not that this lens is an outstanding lens, but it is a pretty darn good lens and very inexpensive, and will get the job done for most scenes.

Canon 10-18 STM
https://shop.usa.canon​.com …f45-56-is-stm-refurbished

It gives you an equivalent FF view of 16-29mm, and on FF Canon EF, the only three lenses that can get you that close is the 17-40L, 16-35L or the 11-24L, all of which cost more than this lens, in some cases many times more.

Thanks for the link. I will check it out!

The only "issue" is that it is a slower lens aperture wise. You may have to shoot at higher ISOs sometimes vs a constant f2.8 or f4 lens. It is also a very good video lens.

Going from a 1Ds2 to a 5D2 would be a nice step up in ISO usability. I used my 5D2 at around ISO-3200 and "pushing" it at ISO-6400. I very rarely went beyond that. It was a fantastic camera for my landscape use. The only draw back is that you would be taking a huge step back with the auto focus. The 5D3 would be a nice compromise between affordable and not losing AF ability while getting better high ISO use.

I made do with the 5D2 for quite a long time and worked around the AF. I still got some great shots of moving subjects like birds and boats. I never liked the 5D2 AF, I came from a 1D2 and 1D3. I always missed that amazing 1D AF. AF was the main reason for my upgrade to a 5D4, and the added bonus of even better high ISO just takes the cake. But landscapes don't really move much so AF wasn't too hindering for me most of the time.

Actually the 5D2 and 1DS2 have about the same DR. In the intermediate ISO levels, the 5D2 pulls some underexposure/overexpo​sure tricks to get a bigger difference. The 5D3 isn't much different in this regard than the 5D2.

The 6D is better than both of these however.

duckster wrote in post #19124959
Thanks for the link. I will check it out!

I've used the slightly more expensive, but also slightly faster, 10-22 with Canon crop bodies for years; https://shop.usa.canon​.com …m-f-35-45-usm-refurbished

It works very well, IMO. I had very few times that I was shooting something where the aperture was too slow, since I shot landscapes from a tripod 90%+ of the time when things were dim enough to drop shutter speeds below 1/20.

Tim, I'd definitively put the 5D4 at the top of your list.
30MP and tons of leeway with high ISO. The files are amazing.
The EOS-R has essentially the same sensor with images offering similar goodness, but that's mirrorless.

6D and 5D3 would be improvements over 1DS2, but not as huge an upgrade as the 5D4 will be.

I'll add this also in favor of the 5D4;
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=19125019

No other thread on this forum shows off a camera as well as this thread does.

For duckster, if you got rid of the 7D and T3i and put that toward the purchase of a 5D4, the 7D2/5D4 is a very potent combination, and they operate the same way (button layout, etc). Those two will get any job done.