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Oct 03, 2020 16:36 |  #1

I can't find a thread on the forums for TS lenses. Is there one, if not, why not? I fully appreciate it is a somewhat specialist lens but it is so much fun. :lol:


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Dj Silver wrote in post #19133704 (external link)
I can't find a thread on the forums for TS lenses. Is there one, if not, why not? I fully appreciate it is a somewhat specialist lens but it is so much fun. :lol:

There is now.




  
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Oct 03, 2020 16:45 as a reply to  @ NullMember's post |  #3

Where John?


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Dj Silver wrote in post #19133704 (external link)
I can't find a thread on the forums for TS lenses. Is there one


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There is now.


Dj Silver wrote in post #19133712 (external link)
Where John?

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Oct 04, 2020 09:05 as a reply to  @ NullMember's post |  #5

Oh right. :lol:


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Oct 04, 2020 11:56 |  #6

No Tripods

Have you ever successfully used a tilt shift lens, hand held in an environment where tripods are either not allowed or an inconvenience to bring? Do you get acceptable and satisfying images working this way?

NOTE: Assume that when I'm talking about places being busy or crowded, I'm talking about "normal circumstances". I *am* optimistic we'll return to that, someday.

One of the things I like to shoot is grand churches, and typically I'm on foot. Most of the grand churches don't like tripods for good reason. Also, carrying around a tripod for exteriors is a nuisance, especially if you have to set it up and break it down quickly. A good example of this is St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC. For interior shots, it's busy with visitors and it's a working church. For exterior shots, across 5th Ave setting up a tripod in front of Atlas at Rockefeller Center is hazardous at best, if you could even do it with the crowds. Have any of you used a TS successfully in this type of situation?

I have a 5DMkIV and the TS-E 24 f/3.5L II. I know how to nail focus through the viewfinder. I am assisted by the AF points. It doesn't autofocus obviously, but with limitations the camera knows when the lens is in focus. I know how to work with exposure metering when shifting and tilting, metering initially at the zero position. Quick hint? Meter through live view and there isn't a TS metering issue.

Accordingly my question isn't so much about the basic technical aspects of using a TS lens, but whether you've had success handholding a camera with a TS lens while tilting and/or shifting.

Thanks in advance!


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Oct 04, 2020 13:22 |  #7

This is hand held shot using the tilt function. I really have not used the lens to its full potential but I love the lens. I think I used a bit too much, part of my daughter's left side is OOF.

Hopefully we can get some experienced guys on here share their experience. :)

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Oct 04, 2020 13:36 |  #8

Here's another hand held using the tilt

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Oct 04, 2020 18:25 |  #9

mathogre wrote in post #19134070 (external link)
No Tripods

Have you ever successfully used a tilt shift lens, hand held in an environment where tripods are either not allowed or an inconvenience to bring? Do you get acceptable and satisfying images working this way?

NOTE: Assume that when I'm talking about places being busy or crowded, I'm talking about "normal circumstances". I *am* optimistic we'll return to that, someday.

One of the things I like to shoot is grand churches, and typically I'm on foot. Most of the grand churches don't like tripods for good reason. Also, carrying around a tripod for exteriors is a nuisance, especially if you have to set it up and break it down quickly. A good example of this is St. Patrick's Cathedral in NYC. For interior shots, it's busy with visitors and it's a working church. For exterior shots, across 5th Ave setting up a tripod in front of Atlas at Rockefeller Center is hazardous at best, if you could even do it with the crowds. Have any of you used a TS successfully in this type of situation?

I have a 5DMkIV and the TS-E 24 f/3.5L II. I know how to nail focus through the viewfinder. I am assisted by the AF points. It doesn't autofocus obviously, but with limitations the camera knows when the lens is in focus. I know how to work with exposure metering when shifting and tilting, metering initially at the zero position. Quick hint? Meter through live view and there isn't a TS metering issue.

Accordingly my question isn't so much about the basic technical aspects of using a TS lens, but whether you've had success handholding a camera with a TS lens while tilting and/or shifting.

Thanks in advance!

I once travelled with ONLY a Shift lens mounted on my Olympus OM body, no other lens in my possession for the entire trip. Having been to the same cities with a bag full of lenses, I wanted to experient with those same places shot ONLY with a Shift lens, the OM 24mm f/3.5

I was thrilled to discover that I was TOTALLY happy with that lens alone. And that was in the days of ISO 400 speed limitations to color film, not like travelling with the modern digital camera with its ultrahigh ISO. Frankly, using Shift off tripod is quite feasible. I do not think Tilt is quite so readily done.


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Oct 05, 2020 13:29 |  #10

A few oldies by now, but both handheld:

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TS-E 24L (Mk I), tilted, handheld. This is a picture I often show people to demonstrate what is possible with a tilt-shift lens :). Taken with the 400D, wide open at F/3.5. I always thought this was a heavily underrated lens.

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Taken with the TS-E 17L, shifted to make the sides of the doorway not converge too steeply. Maintained some convergence for a more natural look. Also handheld, with the 5D II, at F/6.3, focused on the front of the bushes on the right by the wall, for optimal DoF. The image sharpness blew me away at the time. The plants at the left bottom show the leaf veins in the original image, in all their glorious detail.

For me, one of the main reasons to go with Canon when getting my first dslr, was the selection of TS-E lenses (24, 45 and 90 at the time, which I all got ;)), and specialist macro lenses, like the MP-E 65.

I owned the TS-E 24L, the TS-E 45 and the TS-E 90 for quite a while, before selling the TS-E 24L and getting the TS-E 17L when it was released. Next the TS-E 24L II arrived, and I traded in the TS-E 45 and TS-E 90 when I got the TS-E 135L Macro. Still planning on getting the complete TS-E L-set in the near future, probably the TS-E 50L Macro first :).

One of the best kept secrets, IMO, is the fact that these lenses despite their modest largest apertures, all have incredible bokeh and OOF transitions both in front and behind the focus(ed) zone. The 24L shot shows this quite nicely IMO. And they do have this not just at their largest apertures, but throughout the entire range of apertures. I just love these lenses for my personal shooting pleasures.

HTH, kind regards, Wim

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Oct 24, 2020 10:09 |  #11

Do you really need a tilt shift with good software like Lightroom to crop and correct geometry. They are so expensive. I would rather just use my 24mm f2.8 IS with Lightroom.




  
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Do you really need a tilt shift with good software like Lightroom to crop and correct geometry. They are so expensive. I would rather just use my 24mm f2.8 IS with Lightroom.

Some aspects of a tilt/shift cannot be replicated with software. Also, you can't replicated the quality of the things that software can try and replicate. I started with the canon 90, then got the 24II and the 17. The 17 is amazing.

There should be plenty of tilt/shift threads.


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Oct 25, 2020 06:24 |  #13

spaceghost1969 wrote in post #19142600 (external link)
Do you really need a tilt shift with good software like Lightroom to crop and correct geometry. They are so expensive. I would rather just use my 24mm f2.8 IS with Lightroom.

You lose a lot of pixels if you stitch a panorama of four or five images, with a TS you hardly lose any.
Yes, they are very expensive but worth every penny. They really get the creative juices flowing.

Stuck in yesterday due to the weather and was playing around with it. Not the greatest but I just love experimenting with it. :lol:

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Oct 25, 2020 07:37 |  #14

spaceghost1969 wrote in post #19142600 (external link)
Do you really need a tilt shift with good software like Lightroom to crop and correct geometry. They are so expensive. I would rather just use my 24mm f2.8 IS with Lightroom.

Here is another, our rescue boy, Henry the English Setter.

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