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Oct 29, 2020 18:51 |  #1

I am sure there are many more like me on the fence.
I for one would like to have the solid resolution of R5 that can compensate for the limited reach.
Rest of the differences are not so important (at least for me).
While I do prefer the mode dial on R6 over the top LCD, that may be another point to R6.
However the sheer less than half resolution is pulling me back from R6.
On the other hand the cost difference of almost half the price of R6 for R5 does not look justified either (considering just the resolution advantage)

What are your thoughts?
If you were on fence for some time and bought one vs other, what are the boxes you checked?
Let's keep the availability factor aside (due to which you may have opted to go for R6).

Appreciate your inputs.
Cropability of R5 is what will compensate the limited focal lengths for the bird and wildlife.
So how far can we stretch R6?
Could you post some extreme crops with either camera to help decide?

Thanks to @Dave63401 for posting a comparison in this post.

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Oct 29, 2020 21:55 |  #2

R6 for me as I dont need the resolution and print large but the low light sensor used is needed for me.
I am considering the 1DX3 and R6 though . :p

OVF for long events as staring EVF for long period of time make my eyes kinda tired ....


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Oct 29, 2020 22:39 |  #3

I have my 5d4 for more resolution when needed, but the R6 works well in most situations.

Also resizing the R6 up to the 5d4 resolution doesn't really show that much difference.


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Oct 30, 2020 06:31 |  #4

45MP resolution & 8K video. To me at least, those are the big selling points of the R5, so if you don't feel that you'll take advantage of those features, then save yourself a ton of money and go with the R6.

For my own use case I went with the R5 because I'll potentially use it for birding someday, otherwise I most certainly would have went for the R6... and I'll level with you, I have a tiny bit of buyers remorse :rolleyes: I probably bought too much camera because until I start using it for birding (which may never happen) it's mostly going to be used by my wife for her portrait/lifestyle/por​trait photography, and I think she'd have benefited more from the low light capability than the extra resolution (over the EOS R we had previously). Oh well, the die is cast, I'm sticking with my choice and am looking forward to capturing some great photos going forward.




  
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Oct 30, 2020 09:37 |  #5

Here's what my reasons are from another thread:

gossamer88 wrote in post #19144726 (external link)
Totally agree about the cropibility factor. Even with 8K video, which I do not do, you have 35MP frame grabs :eek:

I too keep flip-flopping. My other reasons is the EVF (5.7MP vs 3.6MP).

Why get the R6? $1400 less, two SD card slots (CF express are so expensive). If the R6 were at least 24MP it would be a no-brainer...but Canon knew that :-D

I forgot to mention the bigger pixels of the R6 equals better low-light performance. The R6 can focus at -6.5 EV vs -6.0 EV on the R5. Is that a BIG difference?


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Oct 30, 2020 09:56 |  #6

gossamer88 wrote in post #19145324 (external link)
Here's what my reasons are from another thread:

I forgot to mention the bigger pixels of the R6 equals better low-light performance. The R6 offers can focus at -6.5 EV vs -6.0 EV on the R5. Is that a BIG difference?

I found the lowlight performance with AF astonishingly good on the EOS R6. Even with an EF 100-400mmL II lens PLUS an EF 1.4x III Extender I was able to focus on seabirds at night under a partial moon. The EYE-Detect AF worked with some interruptions but it did the job. The EOS R6 does have larger light-wells and that makes a difference. Normally that -6.5EV requires an f/2.8 lens (or faster) to function in super low light.

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This isn't a great JPEG picture (who photographs birds under moonlight? And maybe I got lucky with the light reflecting off the water behind the bird? But I needed to use a flashlight to move about safely and I was surprised to capture this image.

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What a 3x JPEG panorama. Just 5 second exposures to avoid star trails. Shot with the RF 85mm f/1.2L USM lens. No tracking or stacking for me yet.

The R6 is a marvelous camera and it shares the very same sensor that the EOS-1D X Mk III uses... only with a different AA filter. Just a few short years ago, Canon was telling us that 20.1MP sensors were fantastic for wildlife photography. 45MP sensors are more prone to shutter shock and mechanical shutter shouldn't be used under 1/250sec to avoid it. They are also prone to Aberrations closer to the pixel-level... so I'm going to give the R5 a miss and will take a look at Canon again in a few more years. In the meanwhile, the R6 is more than plenty for me. It has the same AF module as the R5 and shares a nearly identical feature menu. If you need to blow images up for billboards you might want to consider the Topaz Labs new "Gigapixel A.I." software which is nothing short of magical.



  
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Oct 30, 2020 10:04 |  #7

Two images taken seconds apart (handheld and with JPEG) using the EOS R6 + RF 85mm f/1.2L USM lens on the day of release.

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For clarity, function, features and response, there's not much more I could ask for. The reason Canon chose the 20.1MP sensor is because it was rated to handle aggressive buffer transfers for 4K video.



  
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As noted by the OP, the Control Dial on the R6 is faster to access and deploy, with less margin for error and is less prone to shattering (something the TOP-LCD on the EOS R was somewhat prone to experiencing). I particularly enjoy using my "older" EF lenses on the EOS R6, via the adapter. This new camera breathes new life into some of my favorite lenses... and gone are the days of haphazard AF results with f/1.2L lenses (which were often hit-and-miss on DSLRs, even expensive models).



  
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Oct 30, 2020 10:33 |  #9

OK, OK...you've convinced me LOL! Now if I can only find an adapter in stock! Oh wait...I'll jump next year and hopefully that won't be an issue!


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Oct 30, 2020 17:09 |  #10

It the extra dough is affordable I think the R5 is the right choice. The low light performance is outstanding and the ability to crop creates great flexibility.


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Oct 30, 2020 17:45 |  #11

Thank you all, and very good points.
Looks like R6 is taking the cake.
Based on latest rumor, may be R6 now and the APS-C (assuming it has all the good stuff from R5/R6) with a new sensor of higher density & low noise could be a choice.


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Oct 30, 2020 17:47 |  #12

MatthewK wrote in post #19145236 (external link)
45MP resolution & 8K video. To me at least, those are the big selling points of the R5, so if you don't feel that you'll take advantage of those features, then save yourself a ton of money and go with the R6.

For my own use case I went with the R5 because I'll potentially use it for birding someday, otherwise I most certainly would have went for the R6... and I'll level with you, I have a tiny bit of buyers remorse :rolleyes: I probably bought too much camera because until I start using it for birding (which may never happen) it's mostly going to be used by my wife for her portrait/lifestyle/por​trait photography, and I think she'd have benefited more from the low light capability than the extra resolution (over the EOS R we had previously). Oh well, the die is cast, I'm sticking with my choice and am looking forward to capturing some great photos going forward.

This is exactly my thought too when considering R5.
If one does not lug around the heavy tele primes (that will make your wallet lighter), the extreme cropable sensor could be the alternative.
Especially for the bird photography.


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Oct 31, 2020 04:51 |  #13

I went with the R5 for the 45MP. I love having a crop mode of 17mp file. Using my 400mm f2.8 in crop mode gives me the equivalent of a 640mm f2.8 lens, just wow to me. The R5 with the 400mm f2.8 is just about perfect for me with what I enjoy doing. I love being able to go in tight in crop mode and then go full frame at the touch of a button and be ready to get flight or more environment. A big thumbs up for me.


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Oct 31, 2020 06:46 |  #14

robamy wrote in post #19145680 (external link)
I went with the R5 for the 45MP. I love having a crop mode of 17mp file. Using my 400mm f2.8 in crop mode gives me the equivalent of a 640mm f2.8 lens, just wow to me. The R5 with the 400mm f2.8 is just about perfect for me with what I enjoy doing. I love being able to go in tight in crop mode and then go full frame at the touch of a button and be ready to get flight or more environment. A big thumbs up for me.


Thanks Rob for your insight.


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Oct 31, 2020 09:36 as a reply to  @ robamy's post |  #15

Hi Rob, about the crop mode.
Is it any different than manually cropping the frame in post.
I assume the crop mode will use part of the sensor and that could have same effect has you taking the full frame and cropping it in post.
I was bit confused so asking.


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