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Dec 04, 2020 17:08 |  #1

I want to replace my front panel USB card reader. I want to get one that has the 3.0 speed for the card readers. Needs to have SD and CF along with USB 3.0 ports. All the ones I am finding the card readers are running off of USB 2.0 which is what I have in my system now. Has anyone found a good reliable one?




  
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Dec 04, 2020 18:38 |  #2

Nascar Nut wrote in post #19161825 (external link)
I want to replace my front panel USB card reader. I want to get one that has the 3.0 speed for the card readers. Needs to have SD and CF along with USB 3.0 ports. All the ones I am finding the card readers are running off of USB 2.0 which is what I have in my system now. Has anyone found a good reliable one?

That’s a pretty tall order. Are we talking a desktop or laptop? And what is the exact make and model?




  
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Dec 05, 2020 02:17 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #3

It is a dell inspiron 5675 desktop.




  
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Dec 05, 2020 07:22 |  #4

Nascar Nut wrote in post #19161990 (external link)
It is a dell inspiron 5675 desktop.

If this https://www.techradar.​com …l-inspiron-gaming-desktop (external link) describes your machine you already have some USB 3.1 ports on both the front and rear panels. But that is not to say you don't have bottlenecks affecting the computers performance. The PC appears to have an HDD spinning type of drive at 7200 RPM but I would suggest you upgrade to a solid state drive (SSD). It also came “standard” configured with 8GB of RAM, I would take that up to 16 or 32 GB if within your budget.

Lastly, the specs say you have Ports (front): 2 USB 2.0, 2 USB 3.1 Gen 1 Type-A, 1 USB Type-C, 1 Audio Combo Jack, 1 Card Reader

Ports (rear): 2 USB 2.0, 4 USB 3.1 Type-A, P/S2 port, HDMI out, audio port, Ethernet port.

Go to https://content.etiliz​e.com …r-Brochure/1041103557.pd​f (external link) For help in port identification.

I personally would just suggest a good quality USB 3.1 card reader with SD and CF capability and attach it to a front or rear USB 3.1 port. You could also get a reader that directly plugs into the USB-C front panel port. Some reviews can be found at https://www.digitalcam​eraworld.com …-best-memory-card-readers (external link).




  
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Dec 05, 2020 10:27 as a reply to  @ John from PA's post |  #5

I did install an SSD drive and I have 16 gigs of ram. Huge difference that made. I was just trying to get away from a card reader. I do need a different reader one way or another because my transfer speeds aren't up to speed and my reader is an older one. Thanks for taking the time to reply and the link.




  
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Dec 05, 2020 11:20 |  #6

Nascar Nut wrote in post #19162119 (external link)
I did install an SSD drive and I have 16 gigs of ram. Huge difference that made. I was just trying to get away from a card reader. I do need a different reader one way or another because my transfer speeds aren't up to speed and my reader is an older one. Thanks for taking the time to reply and the link.

Maybe add something like this... https://www.monoprice.​com/product?p_id=2785 (external link)




  
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Dec 05, 2020 14:17 |  #7

Check the motherboard manual to make sure it has a USB 3 header that you can attach the front panel to (it should since it already has usb 3 ports). I don't have recommendations on a brand, any of the big computer related names should be fine.

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Dec 05, 2020 15:40 |  #8

I recently bought a new Dell desktop. I've never liked card readers so I was excited to have a front-panel slot in the new box. I figured they'd mount it closer to the bus so it would be at least as fast as any external reader. After reading this thread I went out and took some measurements thinking, maybe I'm not imagining this. Internal reader is crap.

I have a bunch of card readers including a couple of nice ones. The Prograde USB-C Dual Slot is 3 times faster than the internal reader (and about 50% faster than a cheap Amazon USB-C reader, which is still much faster than the Dell reader.)

I've never liked external readers but I've always used them. Looks like that's not changing.


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Dec 05, 2020 15:47 |  #9

drsilver wrote in post #19162241 (external link)
I recently bought a new Dell desktop. I've never liked card readers so I was excited to have a front-panel slot in the new box. I figured they'd mount it closer to the bus so it would be at least as fast as any external reader. After reading this thread I went out and took some measurements thinking, maybe I'm not imagining this. Internal reader is crap.

I have a bunch of card readers including a couple of nice ones. The Prograde USB-C Dual Slot is 3 times faster than the internal reader (and about 50% faster than a cheap Amazon USB-C reader, which is still much faster than the Dell reader.)

I've never liked external readers but I've always used them. Looks like that's not changing.

You would be surprised at what seems to be panel mounted only goes to an internal USB hub. It is often an "external device" repackaged to look like it is integral to the machine from the outside.




  
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Dec 05, 2020 19:01 |  #10

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You would be surprised at what seems to be panel mounted only goes to an internal USB hub. It is often an "external device" repackaged to look like it is integral to the machine from the outside.

From the performance, that makes sense. What a shame.


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Dec 06, 2020 08:57 |  #11

Capn Jack wrote in post #19162243 (external link)
You would be surprised at what seems to be panel mounted only goes to an internal USB hub. It is often an "external device" repackaged to look like it is integral to the machine from the outside.

The Dell Inspiron 5675 media reader on the front panel plugs directly into the MB (AMD Ryzen 3/5 or 7) processor depending on model selected. The bus is speced at 5 Gb/s. No guarantee as to what happens after that of course.

But the OP’s desire is to acquire front panel CF and SD card reader, the SD already existing.




  
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Dec 06, 2020 10:09 |  #12

John from PA wrote in post #19162529 (external link)
The Dell Inspiron 5675 media reader on the front panel plugs directly into the MB (AMD Ryzen 3/5 or 7) processor depending on model selected. The bus is speced at 5 Gb/s. No guarantee as to what happens after that of course.

That's still consistent with it plugging into a motherboard board-level USB 3.0 hub. I wouldn't be surprised, given an earlier post in this thread indicating this machine has a 3.1 port, finding out that bus really runs at 10 Gb/sec although the link below only says USB 3.0. That also assumes the card reader that came with the machine runs that quickly.
Page 33 in this link shows what you say, note the (possibly coincidental) proximity of the USB and media card reader:
https://topics-cdn.dell.com …p_owners-manual_en-us.pdf (external link)

I was speaking in generalities, but we use single-board computers (lap-top motherboards) for lab equipment where we work, and much of what appears to be specialized I/O goes through USB on the motherboard itself.

I agree a panel mount would look nicer, but the an external reader running at USB 3 speeds, plugged into the USB 3 port, should run fine.




  
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Dec 06, 2020 12:32 |  #13

It would be nice to just pop a cf card into the front panel of my tower instead of a card reader. Much of the front panels that I have looked at have mixed reviews. The manual shows that I have a USB 3.0 cable connector and USB 3.1 (Type-C) cable connector on my motherboard. I just ran a test with a 128gig lexar 1667 250MB/s in the SD slot on my front panel. Transferring files to an SSD drive I got around 190mbs and to an external drive I got around 120mbs. With a USB 3.1 (Type-C) card reader or front panel that would connect to the USB 3.1 (Type-C) cable connector on my motherboard get any faster speeds?

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Nascar Nut wrote in post #19162643 (external link)
It would be nice to just pop a cf card into the front panel of my tower instead of a card reader. Much of the front panels that I have looked at have mixed reviews. The manual shows that I have a USB 3.0 cable connector and USB 3.1 (Type-C) cable connector on my motherboard. I just ran a test with a 128gig lexar 1667 250MB/s in the SD slot on my front panel. Transferring files to an SSD drive I got around 190mbs and to an external drive I got around 120mbs. With a USB 3.1 (Type-C) card reader or front panel that would connect to the USB 3.1 (Type-C) cable connector on my motherboard get any faster speeds?
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Maybe, maybe not. "John from PA" and I agree your existing reader runs into a bus that is at least 5Gb/ sec, we possibly might disagree the type of bus, but that is a quibble at this point since the bus is faster than what you are feeding into it. There's some overhead needed to transfer the data, such as flow control, packet framing, and other data to to do the transfer, making the bus around 400 MB/sec of your data (note the change in units, from bits to bytes, to match your measurements). You are getting better than half that speed with the Lexar. I don't know if the card reader is limiting the speed or just traffic on that bus from other devices.

Plugging into that port means the loss of the external USB plug, and having to somehow connect your device to that connector on the motherboard, which isn't a type-C connector.




  
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