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Dec 28, 2020 01:41 |  #1

- In 2005 it was the 20D's joystick.
- On the 1D3, they finally gave us a dedicated [AF ON] button on the back. (yes, there ISN'T one on the 1D Mark II!)
- The 1DXIII gave us the touchy-feely AF ON button with point selection.
- The "R" made a failed attempt with the slidy bar thingy.. :(
- Also, we've got great customization's, that let us program different AF set ups on two (or more) buttons.

Here's what I've been missing for years, and it never occurred to me to ask.

- 3 Stage shutter button.

The shutter button has had two stages since before AF,. half press meters, full presses releases shutter.
We need a 3 stage shutter, and we need to be able to program what happens at the 3rd stage. (or even at the first stage)

- On the R5 or R6, i would program the 3rd stage to switch from whatever shutter/drive mode the camera is currently set to, to switch to 20FPS E-shutter.

Thanks Canon. Looking forward to seeing this soon on the R1 and the R5 Mark II correct? :) ;)


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Dec 28, 2020 02:00 |  #2

I know this has been done with firearms, could be interesting to see it implemented on a camera.
Might be a good way to help those who shoot a lot of action to slow down and reduce the number of wasted shots they don't need, but still allow them to knock out a burst when the action warrants it.


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Dec 28, 2020 05:31 |  #3

Moppie wrote in post #19172725 (external link)
I know this has been done with firearms,

What ! firearms have now got metering and AF...... and I thought you just pulled the trigger and they fired a bullet :lol:




  
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Dec 28, 2020 08:33 |  #4

Moppie wrote in post #19172725 (external link)
I know this has been done with firearms, could be interesting to see it implemented on a camera.
Might be a good way to help those who shoot a lot of action to slow down and reduce the number of wasted shots they don't need, but still allow them to knock out a burst when the action warrants it.

But Jake is saying the reverse. At least that is what I read. Switch to 20 fps E-shutter.


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Dec 28, 2020 08:36 |  #5

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19172720 (external link)
- On the R5 or R6, i would program the 3rd stage to switch from whatever shutter/drive mode the camera is currently set to, to switch to 20FPS E-shutter.

Do you mean, whenever you press the shutter to take the shot, it will always use 20 fps E-shutter?
I am not able to understand the use of that. Could you please elaborate a bit more.


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Dec 28, 2020 08:37 |  #6

Ramon-uk wrote in post #19172766 (external link)
What ! firearms have now got metering and AF...... and I thought you just pulled the trigger and they fired a bullet :lol:

In low light, it "hunts" .. :-P


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Dec 28, 2020 08:51 |  #7

I read a few days ago Canon just patented a new shutter design...


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Dec 28, 2020 08:58 |  #8

strobe monkey wrote in post #19172836 (external link)
I read a few days ago Canon just patented a new shutter design...

Yep, details at https://www.canonrumor​s.com …he-modern-shutter-button/ (external link)




  
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Dec 28, 2020 11:14 |  #9

rndman wrote in post #19172825 (external link)
But Jake is saying the reverse. At least that is what I read. Switch to 20 fps E-shutter.

It's the same effect though really. If I can set 20fps as the 3rd stage, than I can have single shot or 5 fos at the normal second stage, allowing me to easily trigger single shots. Now if I set the camera to 20fps, that's my only option. No way I can trigger a single shot at that fps.


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Dec 28, 2020 11:21 |  #10

rndman wrote in post #19172827 (external link)
Do you mean, whenever you press the shutter to take the shot, it will always use 20 fps E-shutter?
I am not able to understand the use of that. Could you please elaborate a bit more.

Only at the 3rd stage. It allows switching from single shot, or low dpoed burst to higher goa burst on the fly, without stopping to alter the camera settings. You wouldn't have to set 3rd stage to 20, it could be 2nd stage is single shot, and 3rd is 12fps mechanical, etc. Whatever two drive modes you use most often.

And since these are user definable, I suppose one could flip the idea. Have your high speed burst be normal, then press harder to 3rd stage for slower or single. Not sure if that would work without firing a burst along the way though.


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Dec 28, 2020 11:23 |  #11

Fascinating. Looks like the 1DX3 AF On button/af point selector idea. It's perfect for a multistage shutter!


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Dec 29, 2020 20:21 |  #12

It would be perfect. Intuitive, as soon as you see something that would warrant high FPS, push harder. I think I already do that with no result :rolleyes:


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