Any advice for long term archival storage?

drsilver wrote in post #19321391
Anybody know how to get data off a Hi-8 video tape cassette? I don't see a place to plug it in.

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MalVeauX wrote in post #19320738
I'll return to lurking if there's no productive discussion to be had on this subject.

Very best,

Good idea as so far you haven't contributed anything to it.

Choderboy wrote in post #19321316
There has to be a best option as there are multiple options.

I would say anything that can be network connected, Ethernet has been around and will remain around for a long time, as it matters not what serves the network as long as it serves it via Ethernet.

drsilver wrote in post #19321391
Anybody know how to get data off a Hi-8 video tape cassette? I don't see a place to plug it in.

Go to a thrift store and buy a used player and rip the tape to a PC.

drsilver wrote in post #19321391
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Anybody know how to get data off a Hi-8 video tape cassette? I don't see a place to plug it in.
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Channel One wrote in post #19328178
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Go to a thrift store and buy a used player and rip the tape to a PC.
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What does "rip the tape to a PC" mean? . And what step-by-step process would one use to "rip the tape" to the PC?


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Channel One wrote in post #19328176
I would say anything that can be network connected, Ethernet has been around and will remain around for a long time, as it matters not what serves the network as long as it serves it via Ethernet.

^ PCs will continue to be Ethernet capable into the future, even when USB has evolved itself to obsolescence!

Channel One wrote in post #19328172
Good idea as so far you haven't contributed anything to it.

He recommended certain optical media, which is probably the most sensible response so far.

Channel One wrote in post #19328172
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Good idea as so far you haven't contributed anything to it.
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Martin has actually contributed a great amount of useful information to this thread. . He takes the time to write detailed, well thought out explanations to all of the points he makes, which is very appreciated.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #19328213
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What does "rip the tape to a PC" mean? . And what step-by-step process would one use to "rip the tape" to the PC?

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Use a player that matches the tape, run it's A/V output through a A/V USB adapter and rip the tapes to the PC, there they can run through a NLE edited if needed and rendered in a standard format for long term storage.

Archibald wrote in post #19328222
He recommended certain optical media, which is probably the most sensible response so far.

The type of media is mot relevant if it can be Ethernet connected, that's the beauty of Ethernet, no matter the storage type they can all connect to a PC/MAC based NLE as needed.

Channel One wrote in post #19328227
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Use a player that matches the tape, run it's A/V output through a A/V USB adapter and rip the tapes to the PC, there they can run through a NLE edited if needed and rendered in a standard format for long term storage.
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I guess I am unfamiliar with, and not understanding, the term, "rip" when used in this context. . But I think I kinda know what you mean now. . Even though I don't know what "rip" means, the rest of what you said provides enough context to take an educated guess.

Thanks!


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #19328234
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I guess I am unfamiliar with, and not understanding, the term, "rip" when used in this context. . But I think I kinda know what you mean now. . Even though I don't know what "rip" means, the rest of what you said provides enough context to take an educated guess.

Thanks!

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Tom,

'Rip' is commonly used vernacular that refers to the process of

• taking something recorded in tradition audio/video media and do analog-to-digital conversion to create a digital file replication of that information, or
  
• simply making a copy of what was done in step 1, to share it with someone else.
  

"(computing, slang) Data or audio copied from a CD, DVD, Internet stream, etc. to a hard drive, portable device, etc.
Some of these CD rips don't sound very good: what bitrate did you use?"

Channel One wrote in post #19328228
The type of media is mot relevant if it can be Ethernet connected, that's the beauty of Ethernet, no matter the storage type they can all connect to a PC/MAC based NLE as needed.

Just because it can be connected to a ethernet does not insure that the data is readable. Ethernet is simply a transport media (physical layer) defining the properties allowing two devices to become connected. There are quite a few more layers (usually 7) and both ends need to be able to support the same protocol stack allowing actual data to be transferred. Lastly, once you move the data, you need an application on both ends that can decode the data and do something with it.

gjl711 wrote in post #19328293
Just because it can be connected to a ethernet does not insure that the data is readable.

Not really, as long as the content is stored to the storage device in a commonly used codec such as WMV, it will be readable, even if the storage format is long history, if the no longer supported device is still operating and has a Ethernet connection what it has stored can be downloaded ans stored to more modern form of storage.

This is the reason why millions of outdated storage formats, Beta, Super Beta, 8mm etc get converted annually to formats that can be stored on NAS devices.

Yes, technically 'Ethernet' are the bottom two layers of 7 layer protocol, to an engineer But colloquially folks talk about 'Ethernet' as mean the whole kit and kaboodle that gets data from one place to another. In the context of a home or office, within a building or campus, not from one place in the world to another, you connect the Ethernet cable and 'it works'. And so the layers have evolved, with 10Base-T, 100Base-T and 1000Base-T implmentations of ports and routers, etc. and the PCs and NAS and routers have evolved to support the most recent, as well as backward compatibility to the old stuff.

So let's keep this device connectivity discussion to the common man idea that "you connect the Ethernet LAN cable (or wireless rounter) and 'it communicates'." We do not need to belabor how many communications layers and which ones...leave that to networking engineers! Please! If this discussion makes my head hurt, I'm gonna take my ball and go home!