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Jan 21, 2021 22:21 |  #1

I need to up my lighting game/quality and I'm not sure what to look for. I currently have a DIY light box that just doesn't cut it anymore and I want to get better at shooting product style photos, like in the example link I post below.

To give you an example of what I'm after, this guy is one of my photography heroes: https://www.instagram.​com/tyalexanderphotogr​aphy/ (external link)

His lighting is always on point and I want to try and emulate his results as best I can. Since my subjects are always fairly small (watches), doing something desk top or similar would be cool but I can adjust if needed.

I currently shoot a 50D and have a 100mm 2.8 macro and a 24mm 2.8 EF-s for lenses.

I'm very inexperienced when it comes to the jargon of lighting so please explain things like I'm 5 years old. In my mind I would like to find something with continuous lighting and a diffuser of some sort. I know what a soft box is but I'm unsure if that's the ideal solution and if it is, what size I should look for? Links to an actual product would be awesome if you have a suggestion.

Thank you in advance for any and all advice!

Since this is a photo forum, here's an example of an image I've taken in my house with somewhat random lighting so you can see what my current results are vs what I'm after.

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Jan 25, 2021 22:50 |  #2

Try starting here. There’s a lot of good information.

https://strobist.blogs​pot.com/ (external link)


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Jan 26, 2021 17:14 |  #3

AngelofDepth wrote in post #19186289 (external link)
Try starting here. There’s a lot of good information.

https://strobist.blogs​pot.com/ (external link)

Thank you very much, looks like a great place to start!


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Jan 26, 2021 18:23 |  #4

Basics


  1. 'large' is 'softer light' source than 'small'
  2. 'large' is relative to subject size
  3. 'large' becomes 'small' when far enough from the subject


16 x 20" softbox is 'large' compared to a bare bulb
36" 48" softbox is 'large' compared to 16 x 20" softbox
Putting a 2" x 3" 'diffuser' (like a Stoffen) on a flash does NOT make it larger than a flash head whose lens measures 2" x 3";
pointing that flash upward to a ceiling turns the ceiling into a 'large apparent light source'.


The distance effect upon 'large' vs 'small'...

  • 5x7" softbox is 'large' if 7" away from the subject, and starts to become 'small' when it is about 21" away from the subject
  • 16x20" softbox is 'large' if 20" from the subject, and starts to become 'small' when it is about 60" away from the subject
  • 36" x 48" softbox is 'large' if 48" from the subject, and starts to become 'small' when it is about 150" away from the subject

...the sun is actually VERY large, but because it is so very far away the sun is perceived by us as a 'small source' and it casts hard edged shadows; if the sky is overcast, the sky is a very 'large' source and casts almost no shadows with definable edges.

So if you have ...

  • a 5x7" softbox only 7" away from the subject, that light is just as 'large' and just as 'soft' as
  • a 16x20" softbox which is 20" way from the subject, and that light is just as 'large' and just as 'soft' as
  • a 36x48" softbox which is 48" away from the subject.

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Jan 26, 2021 21:43 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #19186692 (external link)
Basics

Thanks a lot for that Wilt, that's really helpful. This makes me think I need a larger "studio" than my 10x10 office. Or I need to get smaller softboxes. lol With my intended subject of watches, I'm going to want softer lighting due to all the reflective surfaces like the watch case and the crystal. I clearly need to move the softboxes further away if I want that softer light!


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Jan 27, 2021 07:57 |  #6

Everybody (myself included) wants a bigger space. But there's lots of people shooting in smaller spaces. I'd suggest searching on Youtube for videos such as "Photo studio 10x10", "Shooting in a small photo Studio" or something like that and you'll get some ideas of what you can do pretty quick. Here's a random one for example.

https://www.youtube.co​m/watch?v=_DoyIdremeU (external link)

If you need a bigger space at times maybe rent a space. Google your area for photo studios that rent time out. You're outside of Seattle so I would imagine there are some around.


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