EOS R3 (Discussion Thread)

How about the screen and it's color accuracy? I thought the gaming laptop screens are somewhat not accurate? I am also planning to get a laptop for image editing... thanks

Hopefully this announcement will make the R5 price come down a bit.

Mirrorless just makes things easier, it doesn't change photography at all.

My R6 vs the 5D4:
- no more quickly focus on a face and then recompose and hope for the best.
- no more using outer AF points that are less performance oriented than the center AF point.
- can see in low light reception halls better now with EVF over OVF
- I still use single point and spot AF when desired, set on one rear button, and then eye AF set on the other when I want that.
- manual focusing is so much more a breeze these days

I guess I don't understand how mirrorless supposedly dumbs down the photographer. In fact it frees them up to be more creative now with composition since they worry much less about which AF point to use due to camera deficiencies and can compose correctly in-camera right from the onset.

Even with eye AF... Having the camera follow the eyes so you don't have to worry about your AF settings, when to pump that rear AF button, when to move for composition, all of this is freeing you from the complications of old DSLR designs where they have an AF board sitting elsewhere in the camera separate from the imaging sensor, causing AF issues, gaps between AF points for following an object, etc.

Knowing how to work around those deficiencies, knowing your gear and which AF points to use, what settings to set for the AF system, and how to micro adjust focus to get the most from the gear doesn't make anyone a better photographer, it just makes them a Canon gear expert. Photographic skills translate across any camera model IMO, those are the skills you want to cultivate. Any time gear frees one up to be more creative and more artistic is a good thing.

RDKirk wrote in post #19222852
Well, inasmuch as there was never a 3-level DSLR, the reveal of a 3-level mirrorless is a surprise.

However, if anyone really needed a superior camera to the 5-level mirrorless, the knowledge that a 1-level mirrorless was on the way provided a target.

We haven't seen a price released for that 1-series mirrorless, though. I suspect that if Canon has calculated there is room for a 3-series, the step between the R5 and the R1 must be a very high step indeed.

They're saving the R1 name for a global shutter sensor equipped camera. Then all of the R3 purchasers can get pissed off! I get it, I do ... I hate when they dole this stuff out in dribs and drabs like they did with computers. That commercial from long ago where a guy was driving home with his freshly purchased, latest model computer only to see a billboard about the next, greatest model comes to mind.

Wife: "Are u thinking of getting ANOTHER new camera?"
Me: "Well, this one has actual eye tracking auto focus."
Wife: "That is pretty cool but maybe we should set a time frame for new tech purchases, like u have to use it for x amount of time before you can start looking around at new items."
Me: "Well honey it will all come down to MP for me. And I think this one won't have more than the R5, so that's kind of a deal breaker for me, so don't worry. "
Wife: Looks not comforted by my statement.

My conversation wouldn't have gone any better. I probably would have blurted out the following before realizing what I just did.

"Well if that is the criteria we should use, I should have hit the dating scene a long time ago..."

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19223324
Knowing how to work around those deficiencies, knowing your gear and which AF points to use, what settings to set for the AF system, and how to micro adjust focus to get the most from the gear doesn't make anyone a better photographer, it just makes them a Canon gear expert. Photographic skills translate across any camera model IMO, those are the skills you want to cultivate. Any time gear frees one up to be more creative and more artistic is a good thing.

I agree.

Would having to kill your own pigs to build brushes and grinding your own pigments make for better painters? Artists don't even bother to debate such issues.

Optiq wrote in post #19223328
They're saving the R1 name for a global shutter sensor equipped camera. Then all of the R3 purchasers can get pissed off! I get it, I do ... I hate when they dole this stuff out in dribs and drabs like they did with computers. That commercial from long ago where a guy was driving home with his freshly purchased, latest model computer only to see a billboard about the next, greatest model comes to mind.

But you always know there is going to be another camera.

If the only point is to have the newest and shiniest, it's not Canon's problem that their timing doesn't fit your timing...their timing does fit a lot of other people's timing.

That could get into a whole new topic, but personally as great as it is to see the 3 name come back, and as great a camera as I suspect it will be. It's probably not on my horizon. Nothing to do with cost, but from a practical standpoint I shoot landscape primarily (although you couldn't prove it recently) and it doesn't appear that this is the genre the EOS3 is aimed at. I'm sure it would work, but I don't need the extra size and weight of a built-in grip, the 30FPS, etc. To be blunt, the R5 I just got is so far beyond my abilities in action photographer that I have a LOT to learn before I could stress that system, much less a better one. When it comes to action the first thing I need to make better is me.

Now, if this were the 100mp version from Canon that might be a different argument, and in fact I already have it in my head that when they come out with that one I will most likely get it, then put a grip on the R5 and use it as an action camera.

**I'd love to have them all when it comes down to it, but you can only use so many at one time.

Optiq wrote in post #19223328
They're saving the R1 name for a global shutter sensor equipped camera. Then all of the R3 purchasers can get pissed off! I get it, I do ... I hate when they dole this stuff out in dribs and drabs like they did with computers. That commercial from long ago where a guy was driving home with his freshly purchased, latest model computer only to see a billboard about the next, greatest model comes to mind.

I agree with you about the global shutter. And more cross points.

The EOS system has come a LONG way...

The Semi-Permanently Retired Shelf:

Right to left, EOS 3, EOS 1V, EOS 1D MkII

Now I wish I had kept my 5D and 5d2. Film rebel, EOS 3, 5D, 5d2, 5d4, and r5 would have made a neat line up. I skipped the 5d3.

Optiq wrote in post #19223328
They're saving the R1 name for a global shutter sensor equipped camera. Then all of the R3 purchasers can get pissed off! I get it, I do ... I hate when they dole this stuff out in dribs and drabs like they did with computers. That commercial from long ago where a guy was driving home with his freshly purchased, latest model computer only to see a billboard about the next, greatest model comes to mind.

Replace the word 'computer' with the word 'smartphone'...same thing!

jcothron wrote in post #19223542
Now I wish I had kept my 5D and 5d2. Film rebel, EOS 3, 5D, 5d2, 5d4, and r5 would have made a neat line up. I skipped the 5d3.

I've sold most cameras as I've upgraded, but the 1D2 stayed as a back up and second body for so long that by the time I even considered not using it and selling, it's value was so low it was a tragic idea to sell. So i kept it thinking one of my nephews or someone would develop an interest, but that never happened.