Pubs

The Kings Head. High Street. Hythe. Kent. UK.

The oldest pub in Hythe. The Kings Head has stood proudly on the high street since 1583.

http://www.dover-kent.com/Kings-Head-Hythe.html
https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/Hythe,_Kent

Interesting ancient pub Ray
Did you get to meet the ghost? Seems she's more prevalent nowadays after a certain ceremony

Interesting too the hanging signs history.
Latest one looks well done.

avondale87 wrote in post #19266228
Interesting ancient pub Ray
Did you get to meet the ghost? Seems she's more prevalent nowadays after a certain ceremony

Interesting too the hanging signs history.
Latest one looks well done.

No, I haven’t seen the ghost yet, Richard, in fact I never have met a ghost face to face. However, I am rather sensitive to those cold creepy locations when things don’t seem right, if you know what I mean.
I did take a drive round a bit of the South coast Monday but I didn’t manage to get the pictures I wanted, it was raining and I didn’t get the church interiors I wanted, plus the big lorries bound for the continent were nose tail. All in all it was a waste of time.

Swan Hotel. Hythe. Kent. UK.

http://www.dover-kent.com …Commercial-Inn-Hythe.html

That's a good read Ray.
Old pub indeed
Underage pub par excellence!
Sounds like they quickly amended their ways.

avondale87 wrote in post #19266414
That's a good read Ray.
Old pub indeed
Underage pub par excellence!
Sounds like they quickly amended their ways.

Nicely spotted in the link Richard. I didn't want to draw too much attention to their erroneous little ways.

That link and a lot of the other Kent links you have posted are really interesting. That one shows that you just can't trust the Kentish bunch though what with all the clothes and horse thieves as well as the rowdy element

The 'lost' clothing. The bloke was from Sandwich. Sandwich was one of the Cinque Ports created by King Charley II and was very close to the sea. Now it is about 2 miles inland. Climate change My Mum spent about 6 months there in Records Married Quarters when my old man was posted out to Bahrain. I was in the R.A.F. then and visited her several times. Each time I went there it was closed and about as dead as a dodo.

They had what was called the Great Storm in 1287 that started the rot for the port and silted a lot of places up. I haven't heard anyone complain about the extra land gained there? Am I being cynical

Jonzjob wrote in post #19266447
That link and a lot of the other Kent links you have posted are really interesting. That one shows that you just can't trust the Kentish bunch though what with all the clothes and horse thieves as well as the rowdy element

The 'lost' clothing. The bloke was from Sandwich. Sandwich was one of the Cinque Ports created by King Charley II and was very close to the sea. Now it is about 2 miles inland. Climate change My Mum spent about 6 months there in Records Married Quarters when my old man was posted out to Bahrain. I was in the R.A.F. then and visited her several times. Each time I went there it was closed and about as dead as a dodo.

They had what was called the Great Storm in 1287 that started the rot for the port and silted a lot of places up. I haven't heard anyone complain about the extra land gained there? Am I being cynical

Now you've pointed out our failings, John, I'll have to censor the links before I post them or the whole world will think us good folk of Kent are drug addicts, alcoholics, rouges, villains, poltroons, mountebanks and charlatans. We sent all of them to a little island the far side of the earth back in the 1700-1800s.
Of course you haven't heard anyone complain of the extra land gained in the South East - our philanthropic property empires are building millions of new homes on it for poor people without homes. And, we could say that is when global warming was first noticed.

The Red Lion Hythe. Kent. UK.

http://www.dover-kent.com/Red-Lion-Hythe.html

https://pubwiki.co.uk …heStLeonard/Red​Lion.shtml

https://hythehistorybl​og.wordpress.com/tag/r​ed-lion-inn/

The Dukes Head. Hythe. Kent. UK.

Great state of dilapidation has set in and it looks like the poor old Duke's Head is soon due for the chop.

http://www.dover-kent.com/Dukes-Head-Hythe.html

Ray you said you were going to censor those links
Crumbs! They must have been bad before you cut the whatever bits out.

Sounds like drinking and drowning was common “Fell into Royal Military Canal while intoxicated and drowned”
Not to mention the storey of the shipwreck and the sole survivor.
Certainly kept the coroner busy.

Those old historical photos are interesting.

The Jolly Drayman. Gravesend. Kent. UK.

They even have their own boat for regatta events on the Thames - or possibly to rescue the intoxicated if they stagger too far from the pub.

Known by locals as the "Coke Oven" and previously the Druid's Head from 1843 - 1879, the Drayman is a comfortable and traditional ale house, steeped in 150 years of history and beloved by generations of locals and visitors.
I used to know it as the "Coke Oven" in the 60s, but never needed the rescue boat.

http://jollydrayman.co​.uk/
http://www.dover-kent.com …ly-Drayman-Gravesend.html
https://www.gravesend-regatta.co.uk/

The Jolly Drayman. Gravesend. Kent. UK.

Ray how is Gravesend pronounced? As in graves and end?
Morbid sort of a name and with all those references to misadventure in the Thames one conjectures it got its name from some such events?

150 years ago were those places more watering holes for the thirsty. Thinking of when they started up.
I realise some were coaching inns later licenced accommodationm, booze outlets.

Some of our small towns had many pubs in their early days (1850's) , which by today's population ratio would see same towns overrun with pubs.

This thread is certainly entertaining

In answer to your question, Richard.
It has been said that during the 'Black Death' c1350, it was where the plague fizzled out, hence the graves ended. Not too sure of that?
We do say it as two words - - Graves End.

But I think the web provides a more reliable source, here are a couple of extracts:-
Gravesend comes from the Old English 'grāf' meaning a 'grove, copse' with 'ende' as an 'end, the end of something'; therefore, 'end of the grove'. The Domesday Book records Gravesend as Gravesham and the Textus Roffensis as Gravesaende

Gravesend was once one of the most important ports in England, given the sole rights to transporting passengers to and from London in the 14th century. During the 19th century, steamboats chugged up and down the river and thousands of immigrants disembarked in the town as the first port on the Thames

As you are frequently referring to our past criminals, read on:-Crime and Safety in Gravesend, Kent. I will not enter into my political slant on this - but - I'll just say the police warned have people to go careful in the town, although crime is spreading to the suburbs. A sign of our times perhaps?
Gravesend is among the top 5 most dangerous medium-sized towns in Kent, and is the 21st most dangerous overall out of Kent's 335 towns, villages, and cities. The overall crime rate in Gravesend in 2020 was 117 crimes per 1,000 people.