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The George. Trottiscliffe (Pronounced Trosley) Kent UK.

I can personally recommend the meals and service.

I couldn't find a detailed history link for this one but references on the link below start at about 1800 which ties the name to George III (1760-1820)

http://www.dover-kent.com …ge-Inn-Trottiscliffe.html

That's a nice building Ray.
Interesting mention of oast house with the sale once.
Was that common? For pubs to have their own?

avondale87 wrote in post #19271805
That's a nice building Ray.
Interesting mention of oast house with the sale once.
Was that common? For pubs to have their own?

G'Day Richard,
Not really common for pubs to be breweries as well as pubs - but it did happen - just as there are little breweries (micro breweries) appearing in pubs these days. But I guess most breweries would have bought their dried hops from the hop farms. When I was at school one of my friends lived on farm with several oast houses and he used have one for his bedroom, only one was being used for its proper purpose - further - when I was being brought up to be a goody, (complete with glowing halo) some of my Sunday school lessons were in an oast house attached to the mission hall.
Hop growing was a prolific part of Kent life in the 1500-1900s, perhaps phasing itself out a bit in the 1960-1970s.
The big hop farms had very crude huts for the temporary hop pickers, many coming down from London and regarding it as a family holiday. The oast houses were/are practically much of the farmland scene here and although some may have been demolished many have been converted to a 'must have' for anyone who wants be different. In fact we were considering buying one ourselves before we moved where we are now. I have one right opposite where I live now and many more within five minutes drive.

This link may be of interest:-
https://favershamlife.​org/hopping-kent/

Thanks Ray
Wow. That must have been some Sunday School.
It's very own oast house
I'm sure a good Sunday school teacher worth their salt could have taught some valuable biblical lessons on such
What was their mission?

Hops were a very important industry here once and that link could have been straight out of Tasmania, except some of the original Oast house are/were works of art and really beautifully made.

The Swan in the High Street, Cheltenham used to have a small brewery incorporated in it. Would you believe they named the beer Swan Ale. It was a superb pint too. One day I went in there for my well earned lunch to find that the brewery had been closed and the only other beer was Whitbread and they were out of the only decent beers they brewed, Flowers original and Directors, so I left.

A while after that I had a call to the Whitbread offices in Cheltenham where they had a problem with a printer in the managed pubs department. I was looking through a printout to see the problem when I saw The Swan, High Street. It was a managed pub owned by the brewery. So I asked th eobvious, why had the micro brewery been shut down when it was so popular. The answer came back that it was because it was more popular than the Whitbread beers, so they shut it down!

People used to go there with their mates for lunch and evening sessions and since a lot of them had no taste buds they would have the W/Bread Brit-fiz (lager) which was more expensive than the beer and the sales were up.

I won't say what I thought of the 'logic' or lack of it!

avondale87 wrote in post #19271830
Thanks Ray
Wow. That must have been some Sunday School.
It's very own oast house
I'm sure a good Sunday school teacher worth their salt could have taught some valuable biblical lessons on such
What was their mission?

Their mission must’ve been to turn us all into evangelists so we could go forth and save the human race from the demon drink. They failed and I didn’t get a temperance medal - so sad.

Romans 14:21 - "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor Romans 14:21 - "It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." 2. Proverbs 20:1 - "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." anything whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak." 2. Proverbs 20:1 - "Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise."

Jonzjob wrote in post #19271875
. So I asked th eobvious, why had the micro brewery been shut down when it was so popular. The answer came back that it was because it was more popular than the Whitbread beers, so they shut it down!.
I won't say what I thought of the 'logic' or lack of it!

Corporate logic is not the same as human logic, John

"It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor Romans"

I'll bet the Romans didn't taste very nice Ray?

Jonzjob wrote in post #19272207
"It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to "to drink wine, nor Romans"

I'll bet the Romans didn't taste very nice Ray?

They might be quite Yummy with a good old pint (or two) of real Ale.

A friend of mine once said, when we were discussing another taboo topic, "Don't knock it until you've tried it" I never tried it!

The Railway Tavern. Longfield. Kent. UK.
Hop kiln in the background. Not sure who it belongs to, though, but there was plenty of hop farming going on in the 1800s.

Not much available in the way of early history but the pub was most likely around in the 1850s.

http://www.dover-kent.com …way-Tavern-Longfield.html

Ray.Petri wrote in post #19272220
A friend of mine once said, when we were discussing another taboo topic, "Don't knock it until you've tried it" I never tried it!

Queer that you should say that Ray. I haven't either ducky

The Bridges. Previously The Sun. South Darenth. Kent. UK.
The Bridges derives its name from the previous owner and not the viaduct or the River Darent bridge to the left of the picture.

It is possible the pub dates from c1820 as that date corresponds to the building of a paper mill and expansion of the village. The viaduct was built c1859.

Extract from Wiki Link:- The viaduct, built in 1859-60, has 10 arches each approximately 10 metres wide and 20 metres in height. Arch 2 goes over a footpath where arch 3 spans across the Horton road, the 6th across the River Darent and the 8th over a small road leading to an industrial estate. The viaduct was designed by Victorian architect Joseph Cubitt, known for designing the original Blackfriars Railway Bridge in London. It was built by teams of Irish 'navvies' for the London, Chatham & Dover Railway. Farningham Road station to the west of the village was opened in December 1860. A signal box was constructed in 1886. The station previously had some sidings, as well as a water tank, which was removed in 1939.

https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/South_Darenth

http://www.dover-kent.com …ridges-South-Darenth.html

The Bridges. Previously The Sun. South Darenth. Kent. UK.

The attractive and interesting bar

Ray.Petri wrote in post #19273125
The Bridges. Previously The Sun. South Darenth. Kent. UK.
The Bridges derives its name from the previous owner and not the viaduct or the River Darent bridge to the left of the picture.

It is possible the pub dates from c1820 as that date corresponds to the building of a paper mill and expansion of the village. The viaduct was built c1859.

Extract from Wiki Link:- The viaduct, built in 1859-60, has 10 arches each approximately 10 metres wide and 20 metres in height. Arch 2 goes over a footpath where arch 3 spans across the Horton road, the 6th across the River Darent and the 8th over a small road leading to an industrial estate. The viaduct was designed by Victorian architect Joseph Cubitt, known for designing the original Blackfriars Railway Bridge in London. It was built by teams of Irish 'navvies' for the London, Chatham & Dover Railway. Farningham Road station to the west of the village was opened in December 1860. A signal box was constructed in 1886. The station previously had some sidings, as well as a water tank, which was removed in 1939.

https://en.wikipedia.o​rg/wiki/South_Darenth

http://www.dover-kent.com …ridges-South-Darenth.html

Very interesting reading Ray, thanks.
Wow! You wouldn't muck about in that pub. Be lucky to come out alive, or in one piece at worst

Love to have seen that early fire assembly. Horse and cart.
I wonder how much use the pub got to whet the lips of the navvies in building the viaduct. That's impressive, not to mention the pub.

Ray are you on commission? You're visiting a lot of pubs.
Do you tell the licencees your reason? Have to be worth a pint or three
I hope this quest of yours isn't driving you to drink

avondale87 wrote in post #19273142
Very interesting reading Ray, thanks.
Wow! You wouldn't muck about in that pub. Be lucky to come out alive, or in one piece at worst

I thought that when I read the link after I visited - I might've got myself thrown out.

Funny thing is there seems not to be much detailed history available - my mothers family lived in the area for many years and some of her uncles worked at the paper mills before and on their return from WW1. The paper mills were the other side of the viaduct for many years - the mill has now sadly succumbed to housing.
Re the fire station, that was part of my patch in the early days when I was a jumped-up little comms engineer. When the siren went off firemen would come from all directions - some running, some by bicycle and some came by car. I had to make a maintenance visit one day due to false alarms, and as I eased the cover off the siren system control, all the alarms went of, and before I could get to the power switch irate firemen were turning up at the door - They were non too pleased, as you might imagine. My inspector, at that time was a bit of a silly old s*d and had never actually worked on the equipment - or any other equipment for that matter - he told me to be more careful and decided to come and see what the problem was for himself. He looked at the rather complex system and said "I'll show you!" I just stood back. I knew what was going to happened. He banged the cover to release it - - hold breath - - The siren sounded, firemen appeared from all directions. I had to suppress my grin as he stood at the door trying to explain - or make excuses - I've never been quite sure of the fuzzy line between excuses, explanation and utter BS, I was later to become a master of the latter. It was the fourth false call in a week and the firemen were paid on the basis of call-outs. Perhaps they were not as irate as they appeared.

Ray are you on commission? You're visiting a lot of pubs.
Do you tell the licencees your reason? Have to be worth a pint or three
I hope this quest of yours isn't driving you to drink

You are a little joker, Richard. It's a long time since I've had a pint on a landlord - but I'd probably reject it - with the appropriate thanks - I do not mix drinking and driving these days - there are too many uninsured - and also no speak English - drivers around and I do not want to get caught up in problems they could cause - insurance is expensive enough these days.

I've got a deja vu somehow seeing this. I'm so sure I've seen this or similar, just can't recall where or when.