Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
Thread started 09 Jul 2021 (Friday) 22:17
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

How to achieve this shadow lighting effect? And what's the background?

 
Vineet666
Member
91 posts
Joined Jul 2009
     
Jul 09, 2021 22:17 |  #1

Can someone please help identify the Lighting Setups for these pictures? And also what's the background here, with the flooring etc?


IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2021/07/2/LQ_1111247.jpg
Image hosted by forum (1111247) © Vineet666 [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.

IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2021/07/2/LQ_1111248.jpg
Image hosted by forum (1111248) © Vineet666 [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ImageMaker...
looks like I picked a bad week to give up halucinagens
Avatar
2,224 posts
Gallery: 225 photos
Likes: 6981
Joined Dec 2015
Location: AZ-USA
     
Jul 09, 2021 22:55 |  #2

Could be something as inexpensive as a Andoer SN-29 Flash Concentrator Conical Snoot

Or something much more expensive, which is more likely.


Nikons, Rolleiflexes, Elinchroms, Broncolor Paras, Billinghams

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
11,258 posts
Likes: 1527
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
Post edited over 2 years ago by John from PA. (2 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 08:21 |  #3

I remember in the days of film photographers used old venetian blinds to get a similar effect. In fact it is/was termed “venetian blind effect”. These days you can get something similar using Photoshop; see https://digital-photography-school.com …lighting-using-photoshop/ (external link).

Another resource is at https://www.photoshope​ssentials.com/photo-effects/window-blinds/ (external link).




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
40,862 posts
Gallery: 116 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8923
Joined May 2002
Location: Midwest
     
Jul 10, 2021 08:53 |  #4

Two different light sources, the background lit going through staged/mounted slats


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)
"Man only has 5 senses, and sometimes not even that, so if they define the world, the universe, the dimensions of existence, and spirituality with just these limited senses, their view of what-is and what-can-be is very myopic indeed and they are doomed, now and forever."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ from ­ PA
Cream of the Crop
11,258 posts
Likes: 1527
Joined May 2003
Location: Southeast Pennsylvania
     
Jul 10, 2021 10:33 |  #5

john crossley wrote in post #19258111 (external link)
Personally I think that the diagonal stripes are Photoshopped. If the stripes were created using lights, then surely the models body would cast a shadow on the wall behind her.

I would agree that the stripes are likely Photoshopped. Shadows exist at the feet of the models but nothing on the wall from the head or shoulders. In addition the diagonal stripes that exist on the model are lower than the “equivalent” on the wall, tending to indicate a low light source or photoshopping.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
TeamSpeed
01010100 01010011
Avatar
40,862 posts
Gallery: 116 photos
Best ofs: 2
Likes: 8923
Joined May 2002
Location: Midwest
Post edited over 2 years ago by TeamSpeed. (3 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 11:17 |  #6

Both lights are casting shadows at an angle that won't put the model onto the backdrop. Very easy, and easier to do than to photoshop a bunch of modeling shots later, making sure the shadows on the model are offset from the ones in the distance, etc. They make gobos and cucolorises for this.


Past Equipment | My Personal Gallery (external link) My Business Gallery (external link)
"Man only has 5 senses, and sometimes not even that, so if they define the world, the universe, the dimensions of existence, and spirituality with just these limited senses, their view of what-is and what-can-be is very myopic indeed and they are doomed, now and forever."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,462 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4548
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt. (10 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 12:08 |  #7

Something simply 'is not right' if you assume the ligthing is created entirely on set by photographer.


  1. The light source which casts models shadow to model's right does NOT exhibit highlights along the left side of her jeans where the 'shadow area falls evenly across the entire visible front, and not mimicing the highlighting created by the side light
  2. The shadow pattern (in her beige outfit, and again in her jeans+top) leg are offset by about 15mm downward (measured on my screen) while the double thin shadow is offset 25mm downward, but the broad shadow above her head is NOT appearing offset downward across her form at all.
  3. The double thin shadows (in her shot in jeans) falls across he upper forearm, but NOT also across her upper hand (although the double thin shadow is apparent across her heans and lower portion of her top)

You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RicoTudor
Senior Member
Avatar
677 posts
Likes: 386
Joined Jul 2014
Location: Chicago, IL
     
Jul 10, 2021 14:14 |  #8

I agree the stripes are photoshop'ed for the reasons already given and, furthermore, are inconsistent from image #1 to #2. Tacky. The motion blur in #2 indicates continuous lighting, and the hardness suggests direct sunlight. Fill is simply ambient from a white shooting space.


Canon, Nikon, Contax, Leica, Sony, Profoto.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,462 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4548
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt. (5 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 15:02 |  #9

john crossley wrote in post #19258207 (external link)
Well, now knowing were the OP appropriated the images from, and having watched the video at the bottom of the page, I don't think the images are photoshopped.

https://namratajoshipu​ra.com (external link)

Regardless of the true source of images...Stripes on the background are seen on the body offset by 15-20mm downward (measured on my monitor), EXCEPT for the broad stripe up above model's head...where is that broad stripe on her body?!...it ought to be appearing somewhere about her head!
I suspect the background may be a back projection on a translucent background, and the 3 stripes that do fall across the model's body were placed there with Photoshop but they omitted the top one as it would have been inconveniently positioned across part of her face.


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Capn ­ Jack
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,179 posts
Gallery: 2961 photos
Likes: 27755
Joined Mar 2010
Location: NE USA
     
Jul 10, 2021 15:18 |  #10

Wilt wrote in post #19258208 (external link)
Regardless of the true source of images...Stripes on the background are seen on the body offset by 15-20mm downward (measured on my monitor), EXCEPT for the broad stripe up above model's head...where is that broad stripe on her body?!...it ought to be appearing somewhere about her head!

Probably just missing them, or in their dark hair, as I see two models.

I initially was thinking a large room with a skylight, but the shadows in the rest of the images in the source haven't moved. If it were sun light, the shadows would have changed angle during the time all of the images were shot.

john crossley wrote in post #19258207 (external link)
Well, now knowing were the OP appropriated the images from, and having watched the video at the bottom of the page, I don't think the images are photoshopped.

https://namratajoshipu​ra.com (external link)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,462 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4548
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt.
     
Jul 10, 2021 15:26 as a reply to  @ Capn Jack's post |  #11

In the video segment from the original web page, I do see the two narrow stripes appearing across the models' bodies as they move, so not Photoshopped after all, but projected. In fact, during some of the video you can see the shadow of the model cast onto the background surface when she is close to that surface. But that still leaves the question ,'Where is that broad stripe up that falls on the b/g above their head?"


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Capn ­ Jack
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,179 posts
Gallery: 2961 photos
Likes: 27755
Joined Mar 2010
Location: NE USA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Capn Jack. (2 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 15:31 |  #12

Wilt wrote in post #19258218 (external link)
In the video segment from the original web page, I do see the two narrow stripes appearing across the models' bodies as they move, so not Photoshopped after all, but projected. In fact, during some of the video you can see the shadow of the model cast onto the background surface when she is close to that surface. But that still leaves the question ,'Where is that broad stripe up that falls on the b/g above their head?"

Probably in their dark hair or just missing their head? I suspect you didn't include parallax in your measurements.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,462 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4548
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt. (4 edits in all)
     
Jul 10, 2021 15:39 |  #13

Wilt wrote in post #19258218 (external link)
In the video segment from the original web page, I do see the two narrow stripes appearing across the models' bodies as they move, so not Photoshopped after all, but projected. In fact, during some of the video you can see the shadow of the model cast onto the background surface when she is close to that surface. But that still leaves the question ,'Where is that broad stripe up that falls on the b/g above their head?"

I retract my statement about shadows across the body put there by Photoshop, based upon seen the video segment. Also, retract statement about back projection, as the stripes clearly fall in varying positions as the models move during the video.
Here is a still captured from the video, showing the model's hand projected onto the background

IMAGE: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i63/wiltonw/howdone.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds
...apparently cast by model's (unseen in this angle) left hand by a cooler source compared to the warmer source that casts the shadows of the stripes.

You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,012 views & 1 like for this thread, 7 members have posted to it and it is followed by 3 members.
How to achieve this shadow lighting effect? And what's the background?
FORUMS General Gear Talk Flash and Studio Lighting 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is AlainPre
1448 guests, 154 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.