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ON1 NoNoise vs. Topaz DeNoise AI - Topaz wins for now

 
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Jul 22, 2021 11:51 |  #1

PetaPixel compares.
A good and fair comparison.
PetaPixel reports at present Topaz wins.
After ON1 makes some processing and annoying interface changes, it may be the tool of choice.

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Jul 24, 2021 10:36 |  #2

I have both. NoNoise has some good features and I agree it needs a little more work. I've never been a big fan of PetaPixel as they have posted inaccurate information a few times.


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Jul 30, 2021 11:19 |  #3

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #19262849 (external link)
PetaPixel compares.
A good and fair comparison.
PetaPixel reports at present Topaz wins.
After ON1 makes some processing and annoying interface changes, it may be the tool of choice.

the article:
ON1 NoNoise AI Versus Topaz DeNoise AI: Noise Reduction Throwdown (external link)

I have a license for Topaz Denoise AI and spent a few hours comparing it to the trial of ON1 NoNoise. While the ON1 product has a few bugs and the results with non raw images is still essentially in beta according to ON1, I found the results with NoNoise to be noticeably better and more pleasing after comparing dozens of images processed in both Topaz Denoise AI 3 and ON1 NoNoise. One must be careful not to over apply the settings with ON1 No Noise which can cause too much smoothing.

No Noise is a great first effort by ON1. However, in my experience, neither ON1 NoNoise or Topaz Denoise AI comes close to matching the results with raw files from DXO's DeepPRIME noise reduction which is available in DXO's PhotoLab 4 as well as their PureRAW standalone app. One of the advantages of using the products from ON1 and Topaz is that they will both work on non-raw images while DXO's DeepPRIME works on raw images only. Those points aside, for most people and for most images, any of the 3 current technologies will give generally satisfying results.


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Jul 31, 2021 11:33 |  #4

mwsilver wrote in post #19266152 (external link)
I have a license for Topaz Denoise AI and spent a few hours comparing it to the trial of ON1 NoNoise. While the ON1 product has a few bugs and the results with non raw images is still essentially in beta according to ON1, I found the results with NoNoise to be noticeably better and more pleasing after comparing dozens of images processed in both Topaz Denoise AI 3 and ON1 NoNoise. One must be careful not to over apply the settings with ON1 No Noise which can cause too much smoothing.

No Noise is a great first effort by ON1. However, in my experience, neither ON1 NoNoise or Topaz Denoise AI comes close to matching the results with raw files from DXO's DeepPRIME noise reduction which is available in DXO's PhotoLab 4 as well as their PureRAW standalone app. One of the advantages of using the products from ON1 and Topaz is that they will both work on non-raw images while DXO's DeepPRIME works on raw images only. Those points aside, for most people and for most images, any of the 3 current technologies will give generally satisfying results.

Agree. In many other reviews the DXO product wins. However, the DXO product and the present ON1 product both not working at all or not working well on non-RAW images is a major shortfall. When post-processing, many thing users may and can do introduce noise. A good, well-rounded denoising product will work well in all circumstances, not just one. The fact that DXO does not and ON1's NoNoise presently does not means that even tho the products might product better results on RAW images, the products are useless to some users. Workflows can and do vary greatly. Any image editing product that does not recognize this and offer options to address this is a poorly-designed product.


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Jul 31, 2021 13:51 |  #5

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Agree. In many other reviews the DXO product wins. However, the DXO product and the present ON1 product both not working at all or not working well on non-RAW images is a major shortfall. When post-processing, many thing users may and can do introduce noise. A good, well-rounded denoising product will work well in all circumstances, not just one. The fact that DXO does not and ON1's NoNoise presently does not means that even tho the products might product better results on RAW images, the products are useless to some users. Workflows can and do vary greatly. Any image editing product that does not recognize this and offer options to address this is a poorly-designed product.

Agree except for your last statement. That is why I also own a license for Topaz Denoise AI 3. I rarely process non-raw images but when I do I use Topaz which is the only reason I purchased the license. DXO PhotoLab is a raw processor/convertor. PureRAw is a raw file preprocessor. The extraordinary results of DeepPRIME are only possible with raw files for which it is optimized and extremely processor intense. This technology was not designed for nor would work with non raw images. DXO could come up with something else for non raw images but it wouldn't be the same quality. Raw processing is DXO's forte.


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Jul 31, 2021 15:18 |  #6

mwsilver wrote in post #19266608 (external link)
Agree except for your last statement. That is why I also own a license for Topaz Denoise AI 3. I rarely process non-raw images but when I do I use Topaz which is the only reason I purchased the license. DXO PhotoLab is a raw processor/convertor. PureRAw is a raw file preprocessor. The extraordinary results of DeepPRIME are only possible with raw files for which it is optimized and extremely processor intense. This technology was not designed for nor would work with non raw images. DXO could come up with something else for non raw images but it wouldn't be the same quality. Raw processing is DXO's forte.

This is why I’m really hoping Adobe does something to catch up to the competition. It would be so nice to have Noise Reduction Sensei and work with a RAW file. Definitely a big advantage working with PL.


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