Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Guest
Forums  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS General Gear Talk Tripods, Monopods & Other Camera Support 
Thread started 08 Sep 2021 (Wednesday) 07:47
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

Is it safe to use these screws to mount your shoulder strap to??

 
dvboy
Junior Member
24 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Sep 2007
     
Sep 08, 2021 07:47 |  #1

Can’t seem to find the answer,these particular ones are made by Smallrig,but would be open to suggestions to a better screw of this type.

IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2021/09/2/LQ_1120272.jpg
Image hosted by forum (1120272) © dvboy [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,420 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4508
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt. (10 edits in all)
     
Sep 08, 2021 15:03 |  #2

The issue is the unknown load bearing strength of the screws which attach the D-ring to the screw head (red arrow)

IMAGE: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i63/wiltonw/Smallrig_alt.jpg?width=590&height=370&fit=bounds

Oddly, a visit to smallrig web site shows no products as you depicted. There is a different type of product on their web site
IMAGE: https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/i63/wiltonw/Smallrig.jpg?width=960&height=720&fit=bounds

which inherently I might have a greater degree of faith about its suitability of the strength of the O-ring, which appears to be larger diameter in cross-section than the pivoting screw (red arrow)

For either product, the fundamental insecurity I fear is that the strap attaches in such a way that a swinging camera can unscrew the thread out of the tripod socket in the camera base! That, to me, is a bigger disqualifier than the question about material strength. :-(
Any product put to the use that you are considering HAS TO NOT UNSCREW itself via any rotational motion that might be exerted by the strap. I would rather use a screw like the one shown to attach an antitwist baseplate to the bottom of the camera, and the shoulder strap attaches to the baseplate, and any motion does nothing to loosen the thumbscrew which holds the plate to the camera. Something like this (although it lacks the anti-twist feature)...

https://www.amazon.com …rap&qid=1631133​005&sr=8-8 (external link)
https://www.amazon.com …vTm90TG9nQ2xpY2​s9dHJ1ZQ== (external link)

You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dvboy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Junior Member
24 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Sep 2007
     
Sep 08, 2021 18:08 as a reply to  @ Wilt's post |  #3

The screws are from Smallrig,I’m not to concerned about it unscrewing,but concerned for sure about the strength.Yes,a plate with a flip out ring might be the best compromise,blackrapid also makes one…

IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2021/09/2/LQ_1120345.jpg
Image hosted by forum (1120345) © dvboy [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.

IMAGE: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/images/hostedphotos_lq/2021/09/2/LQ_1120346.jpg
Image hosted by forum (1120346) © dvboy [SHARE LINK]
THIS IS A LOW QUALITY PREVIEW. Please log in to see the good quality stuff.



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,420 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4508
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
Post edited over 2 years ago by Wilt.
     
Sep 08, 2021 19:15 |  #4

If the D-ring tightens and loosens the screw in the 1/4-20 tripod hole, how can you NOT be concerned about a strap putting torsion on the D-ring and unscrewing it when the camera swings around at the end of the strap?!


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dvboy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Junior Member
24 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Sep 2007
     
Sep 08, 2021 19:35 |  #5

Wilt wrote in post #19281302 (external link)
If the D-ring tightens and loosens the screw in the 1/4-20 tripod hole, how can you NOT be concerned about a strap putting torsion on the D-ring and unscrewing it when the camera swings around at the end of the strap?!

I wouldn’t be concerned if there was a manufacturer that specifically made a screw for this exact purpose.That’s the purpose of this thread:-)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Wilt
Reader's Digest Condensed version of War and Peace [POTN Vol 1]
Avatar
46,420 posts
Gallery: 1 photo
Likes: 4508
Joined Aug 2005
Location: Belmont, CA
     
Sep 08, 2021 21:26 |  #6

dvboy wrote in post #19281304 (external link)
I wouldn’t be concerned if there was a manufacturer that specifically made a screw for this exact purpose.That’s the purpose of this thread:-)

But the issue is that the strap holding is NOT the purpose of this particular screw.


You need to give me OK to edit your image and repost! Keep POTN alive and well with member support https://photography-on-the.net/forum/donate.p​hp
Canon dSLR system, Olympus OM 35mm system, Bronica ETRSi 645 system, Horseman LS 4x5 system, Metz flashes, Dynalite studio lighting, and too many accessories to mention

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dvboy
THREAD ­ STARTER
Junior Member
24 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Sep 2007
     
Sep 08, 2021 22:00 |  #7

Wilt wrote in post #19281323 (external link)
But the issue is that the strap holding is NOT the purpose of this particular screw.

Agreed……Talking in circles here,looking for a screw that is designed for this purpose.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Perfectly ­ Frank
I'm too sexy for my lens
6,234 posts
Gallery: 146 photos
Likes: 5008
Joined Oct 2010
     
Sep 09, 2021 02:32 |  #8

What about this one from BR? Solid piece, no D-ring to move.

https://www.blackrapid​.com/fastenr5-fr-5-breathe/ (external link)

I've been using this for several years with a few cameras and never had one come loose. The rubber washer creates tension
between the mount and tripod hole. But I do two things...I add a drop of Loctite Blue 242 threadlocker (don't use red!)
to the threads. After I screw the mount on finger tight, I put a screwdriver through the mount's opening
and apply a little torque. It stays tight.


When you see my camera gear you'll think I'm a pro.
When you see my photos you'll know that I'm not.

My best aviation photos (external link)
My flickr albums (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Bob_A
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,738 posts
Gallery: 48 photos
Likes: 199
Joined Jan 2005
Location: Alberta, Canada
     
Sep 09, 2021 09:10 |  #9

Perfectly Frank wrote in post #19281368 (external link)
What about this one from BR? Solid piece, no D-ring to move.

https://www.blackrapid​.com/fastenr5-fr-5-breathe/ (external link)

I've been using this for several years with a few cameras and never had one come loose. The rubber washer creates tension
between the mount and tripod hole. But I do two things...I add a drop of Loctite Blue 242 threadlocker (don't use red!)
to the threads. After I screw the mount on finger tight, I put a screwdriver through the mount's opening
and apply a little torque. It stays tight.

I’ve been using a similar one (uncoated) from BR for my BR strap. I may be wrong but believe they used to have have a few different sizes based on the load being carried.

I don’t go as far as you (no Loctite, but I do use the connector to get a half turn beyond finger tight), but carrying my Z6 with 24-70 around with it all day (vacation … getting bumped by crowds, etc), it’s never come loose. I’m paranoid though and check it every hour or so.

My only concern is gradually wearing out the threads because I don’t always want the strap mounted. Also I’m certain the rubber is going to oxidize over time and get hard. Maybe it’s a part that should be replaced every 10 years? All I know is I’ll never go back to a shoulder strap after using the BR strap.


Bob
SmugMug (external link) | My Gear Ratings | My POTN Gallery

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Channel ­ One
Goldmember
Avatar
1,949 posts
Likes: 203
Joined Nov 2010
Location: Clewiston Florida USA
     
Sep 14, 2021 14:52 |  #10

dvboy wrote in post #19281127 (external link)
Can’t seem to find the answer,these particular ones are made by Smallrig,but would be open to suggestions to a better screw of this type.

Hosted photo: posted by dvboy in
./showthread.php?p=192​81127&i=i108399166
forum: Tripods, Monopods & Other Camera Support

What is the reason for using the base mount for a camera strap?


Do what you love and you will love what you do, that applies to both work and life.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links (only for non-logged)

1,340 views & 3 likes for this thread, 5 members have posted to it and it is followed by 4 members.
Is it safe to use these screws to mount your shoulder strap to??
FORUMS General Gear Talk Tripods, Monopods & Other Camera Support 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Forums   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset   •  Home

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.58forum software
version 2.58 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Niagara Wedding Photographer
1265 guests, 115 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15,144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.