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RF 800 vs. RF 600mm

 
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Dec 09, 2021 11:30 |  #31

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I'm a little concern about the MFD with the 800 ...
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That super far away MFD is a concern, and I don't think there's much that you can practically do about it.

When I saw the MFD, I thought it was a lot too, but 6 meter in the field has never hindered me. You just need to have realistic expectations and use the lens according to its abilities and its shortcomings. The 800/11 is made for open terrain. It is not really a lens for the park. Edit: Just like jmckayak said as I was typing this. And in open terrain, in the fields the MFD is of no consequence whatsoever. Although you can also take it out to the park, you just have to pay more attention to the surroundings. I took it out to the park last year, to try it out and shot a magpie that was very very close. I didn't think I had enough distance, but I had. I was able to shoot the bird completely filling the frame and he was in perfect focus. But even tiny songbirds. Have a look at this, a Great tit.
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Dec 09, 2021 11:33 |  #32

Geez, I was typing, didn't pay attention, said what had already been said. Edited my post to include that, got his name wrong. There are days...

Edit: And I also had to do another edit there because I uploaded the wrong file and not the screenshot. :oops: :rolleyes:


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Dec 09, 2021 11:58 |  #33

It more and more seems like the RF 800 is the way to go, since I have the 100-400 already




  
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Dec 09, 2021 12:30 |  #34

Tommydigi wrote in post #19316454 (external link)
so in a way the 1.4 on my 7d with the 100-400 will actually be a similar field of view? Actually a bit longer ( 896 with the crop factor ) While I know there are some trade offs I get the zoom, weather seal, and closer MFD.

I mean...yes? But, you're positing a completely different question here. The 100-400 + 1.4 TC will only get you to 600mm on the R5/6.


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Dec 09, 2021 12:57 |  #35

I am looking at as I have the 7DII so with the crop and 100-400, that will get me to 640mm equivalent, so the 800 on the R6 would be a step up. I don't own a TC at this point




  
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Dec 09, 2021 14:13 |  #36

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I am looking at as I have the 7DII so with the crop and 100-400, that will get me to 640mm equivalent, so the 800 on the R6 would be a step up. I don't own a TC at this point

Oh, you will want one, I promise you. They're outrageously expensive of course, but the RF 1.4x TC is worth it (I don't have the RF 2x TC, not sure I will get one either). Shooting at 1120mm is just amazing.

Two examples from earlier this year, taken on a grey and damp day with flat light. I've posted pics from this outing before as I have not much else of the 800/11 with 1.4xTC (didn't shoot all summer :cry: ). But I don't think I posted these particular ones before. Well, I hope not anyway. :-P

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Dec 09, 2021 15:07 |  #37

You have some very beautiful and photogenic birds in your area! Nice!

We have two kinds of water fowl here especially this time of year... Canada geese and mallards. Even in the summer we might get 2 more kinds (kingfishers and herons), for a total of 4 kinds of birds on or near the water in this part of the country. I am going to have to make a trip south at some point in the summer to get shots of bald eagles though, none here but are about 4 hours from here.


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Dec 09, 2021 15:16 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #38

Thanks Cary. Yeah, the Great crested grebes are indeed beautiful in their breeding plumage. I only wish I had a greater variety of birds here. When I watch YouTube videos of bird photographers in the US, they are surrounded with tons of birds of all kinds of species. I don't have that here. Tits, a finch if I'm lucky, a wren if I'm very lucky. And a jay if I'm very very lucky. Where I live is not the best place for bird photography. Luckily there's always the gulls... :mrgreen:


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Dec 09, 2021 15:17 |  #39

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You have some very beautiful and photogenic birds in your area! Nice!

We have two kinds of water fowl here especially this time of year... Canada geese and mallards. Even in the summer we might get 2 more kinds (kingfishers and herons), for a total of 4 kinds of birds on or near the water in this part of the country. I am going to have to make a trip south at some point in the summer to get shots of bald eagles though, none here but are about 4 hours from here.

Come out West here; between NW WA and lower BC, you should be able to find all of the BE opportunities you could want :D Plus, we can supply a few, more photogenic water birds, like Wood Ducks, pretty much year round...heh


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Dec 09, 2021 15:31 |  #40

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19316564 (external link)
You have some very beautiful and photogenic birds in your area! Nice!

We have two kinds of water fowl here especially this time of year... Canada geese and mallards. Even in the summer we might get 2 more kinds (kingfishers and herons), for a total of 4 kinds of birds on or near the water in this part of the country. I am going to have to make a trip south at some point in the summer to get shots of bald eagles though, none here but are about 4 hours from here.

We do start to get a fair number of eagles around this time of year and we always have quite a few hawks of various species. I would love to get some shots of them but have been reach limited in many cases. 800mm would help that.




  
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Dec 09, 2021 16:10 |  #41

All of you, shooting eagles? I really really hate you. Just so you know...

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Dec 09, 2021 21:00 |  #42

Here's a recent pic using the R5 and 800mm f11. Peregrine vs Eagle

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Dec 09, 2021 21:04 as a reply to  @ jmckayak's post |  #43

That is a really cool shot!!




  
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Dec 09, 2021 21:08 as a reply to  @ jmckayak's post |  #44

Great Horned Owl - 800mm f11 - Taken on my first outing with the lens

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Dec 10, 2021 01:47 |  #45

jmckayak wrote in post #19316649 (external link)
Here's a recent pic using the R5 and 800mm f11. Peregrine vs Eagle
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Dropping in with a STRONG showing :D Nicely done; and right place/time!


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