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Canon 20d + what min. gear I need??

 
marysia
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Mar 28, 2006 11:22 |  #1

I have been reading and searching this forum for weeks. I am finally ready to get 20d, but I am still not sure what lenses, other accesories I need to get with it.

More info about me:

this will be my first dslr
take hundreds of photos weekly. It is becoming my biggest passion.
have Fuji s7000(for my canoeing trips) and a very light Panasonic fz5(for my long backpacking trips)
my typical photos: animals and birds in the wilderness, landscapes(rivers , mountains), white water kayaking photos, recently a lot of Jack Russell Terrier racing photos
what I need: fast lense for sport photography and very difficult light conditions(dog racing often done in the covered pavilions at Fair Grounds) cannot use flash, do not use tripod
money: would like to spend not more than 3000 dol at this point and get camera body, lense, filters, camera bag, flash cards, spare battery. Lenses cannot be very heavy - travel a lot, will carry in the backpack which already weights 70 lbs in difficult foreign lands

What do you think about ef-s 17-85 and ef50/1.4 for my first lenses. any better combination?

I know that these kinds of questions have been asked many times before but everybody has a bit different needs/ financial situation. I would really appreciate your input,

m


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Mar 28, 2006 11:49 |  #2

marysia wrote:
I have been reading and searching this forum for weeks. I am finally ready to get 20d, but I am still not sure what lenses, other accesories I need to get with it.

More info about me:

this will be my first dslr
take hundreds of photos weekly. It is becoming my biggest passion.
have Fuji s7000(for my canoeing trips) and a very light Panasonic fz5(for my long backpacking trips)
my typical photos: animals and birds in the wilderness,(something long rang, 70-200mm maybe or more.) landscapes(rivers , mountains),(Something wide, 17-40mm, 16-35mm) white water kayaking photos,(something fast... get one of those lenses in an f/2.8. or better yet, 50mm f/1.4) recently a lot of Jack Russell Terrier racing photos
what I need: fast lense for sport photography and very difficult light conditions(dog racing often done in the covered pavilions at Fair Grounds)(same 50mm f/1.4 or 85mm f/1.8) cannot use flash, do not use tripod
money: would like to spend not more than 3000 dol at this point and get camera body, lense, filters, camera bag, flash cards, spare battery. Lenses cannot be very heavy - travel a lot, will carry in the backpack which already weights 70 lbs in difficult foreign lands

What do you think about ef-s 17-85 and ef50/1.4 for my first lenses. any better combination?

I know that these kinds of questions have been asked many times before but everybody has a bit different needs/ financial situation. I would really appreciate your input,

m

though, I'd say, now that I see your budget, the 17-85 + 50 will do you well. but for wildlife and birding, you're definitely going to want something more.


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Mar 28, 2006 12:05 as a reply to  @ boink's post |  #3

Canon EOS 20D $1,119.95
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

TWO Canon BP-511a Batteries $22.98
http://sterlingtek.com​/twocabp18bap1.html (external link)

Sandisk 1GB Ultra II CompactFlash Card x 2 $119.90
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L $679.95 -> For Landscape and walkaround lens
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 $314.95 -> For lowlight situations
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

Canon 70-200mm f/4.0L $584.95 -> For wildlife
http://www.bhphotovide​o.com …ghType=category​Navigation (external link)

TOTAL: $2,842.68

That leaves you with everything but your bag and filters. The 50mm f/1.4 could be swapped for an 85 f/1.8 if you think that you need the extra reach for those dog races.


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Mar 28, 2006 12:14 |  #4
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Some of these lenses I purchase right away and some I waited longer than I should have to purchase. If I were to do it all over again I would have done purchased my lenses in the following order for my Canon 20D:

Canon EF-S 17-85mm f4-5.6 IS USM (great all-purpose lens)
Canon EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5 USM (wonderful landscape and wide angle lens)
Sigma 30mm f1.4 EX DC HSM (great low-light indoor lens...50mm is a little long on the 20D)

As for accessories I would get the following accessories in order:

* 2GB Sandisk Ultra II CF card
* Second battery
* Giottos Rocket Blower
* Good, safe camera bag
* Polarizer filter(s) for the EF-S 17-85mm & EF-S 10-22mm f3.5-4.5
* Good, sturdy tripod and good sturdy attachment to said tripod
* Canon Timer Remote Controller TC-80N3
* Speedlite 580EX flash
* Second Sandisk 2GB Ultra II CF card

There are of course other accessories, but these I think are by far the most important.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/latitudes/ (external link)

Canon 5D (external link) & 20D (external link)

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 (external link)
Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 (external link), 16-35mm f/2.8L (external link), 24-105mm f/4L (external link), 35mm f/1.4L (external link), 50mm f/1.8 II (external link), 85mm f/1.8 (external link), 100mm f/2.8 (external link)
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC (external link), 120-300mm f/2.8 APO EX DG (external link)
Other Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.8 (external link), Asahi Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 (external link), Jupiter9 85mm f/2 (external link)

  
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Mar 28, 2006 12:15 |  #5

I'm so glad you posted your budget and what you like to shoot because some people might bash me for simply giving wrong advice.:lol: Just j/k.

Seems like you can benefit from EF 100-400L IS when shooting wildlife, kayaking, and other outdoor sports. It's not as heavy as 70-200f2.8L IS but gives you more reach plus IS while retaining the versatility and IQ.

For landscape/citiscape/ar​chitecture, I don't know your preferecen but i like ultra wide such as the EF-S 10-22, Sigma 10-20, or Tokina 12-24. If those are too wide, then perhaps a EF 17-40f4L fits the bill.

Indoor dog racing, depends on how close/far you are from the subject. Perhaps a 85mm f1.8?

Just my humble suggestion based on the budget. :D


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Mar 28, 2006 12:21 |  #6
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Oh, and don't forget a good post-processing software package. It doesn't have to be Photoshop CS2, but I would make sure that I have that base covered.


http://www.flickr.com/​photos/latitudes/ (external link)

Canon 5D (external link) & 20D (external link)

Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 (external link)
Canon EF 15mm f/2.8 (external link), 16-35mm f/2.8L (external link), 24-105mm f/4L (external link), 35mm f/1.4L (external link), 50mm f/1.8 II (external link), 85mm f/1.8 (external link), 100mm f/2.8 (external link)
Sigma 30mm f/1.4 EX DC (external link), 120-300mm f/2.8 APO EX DG (external link)
Other Carl Zeiss Flektogon 35mm f/2.8 (external link), Asahi Pentax Super Takumar 50mm f/1.4 (external link), Jupiter9 85mm f/2 (external link)

  
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Mar 28, 2006 12:30 |  #7

Don't over look the new 17-55f2.8 USM which is a tad faster then the 17-40F4L




  
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marysia
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Mar 28, 2006 15:13 |  #8

Thank you so much for your great recommendations.

m


1Dmkiii |5dii |17-40L |70-200L 2.8 IS |100-400L IS | 50 1.4| 85 1.8|100 macro | 24-105L 4 IS | 430ex | canon s90| canon g15| Man 3021BPRO+ 488RC2 I Gitzo 2540 tri with RRS BH40 ball w/ RRS clamp/plates | SLIK Sprint Mini ii with RRS BH25| SLIK SBH-100DQ| Domke F-7AF l Lowepro slingshot 200AW, 300AW I Tamrac Pro5 I Pelican Case 1450, 1510

  
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