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Dec 21, 2021 17:04 |  #1

Whatever GPU or graphics card that is in the z800 that I'm using Lightroom and Photoshop 2022 is not compatible with PS 2022 :cry:
I've been digging and searching and it's not looking too good, and it doesn't help that I am ignorant to tech and computer crap :-(
Is there a graphics card out there that will work for both the z800 and PS 2022?


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Dec 21, 2021 22:24 |  #2

Windows 10 I guess (?).
If so, then find the details and post back here.
https://www.windowscen​tral.com …-graphics-card-windows-10 (external link)
Or, once you have the info check out Adobe to see what the minimum requirements are for PS2022, and if your details are in spec.




  
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Dec 22, 2021 12:48 |  #3

Grey Kiwi wrote in post #19321241 (external link)
Windows 10 I guess (?).
If so, then find the details and post back here.
https://www.windowscen​tral.com …-graphics-card-windows-10 (external link)
Or, once you have the info check out Adobe to see what the minimum requirements are for PS2022, and if your details are in spec.

Yeah it's a Windows 10 Pro Edition, but I guess that's not really any different.
I just wish I was more tech savvy when it comes to computers, I have a stepson who is but he's a dick to me and no real help.... ugh


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Dec 22, 2021 12:55 |  #4

I took some pics of what my computer says about it's gpu and what PS says.

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Dec 22, 2021 13:11 |  #5

Gee, that's an old card. Came out in 2009.

Here's more details for you.
https://www.techpoweru​p.com …pecs/quadro-fx-3800.c1321 (external link)

Latest (and last) driver is here (but I see you have version 342.01 anyway. Maybe the driver is corrupt).
https://www.nvidia.com …driverResults.a​spx/94229/ (external link)

Maybe download and install that driver just to see if that's all that's needed.

But such an old card suggests that the entire system is really needing sorting.
May be time for a new one with better spec's?
It's not worth upgrading really old gear to be honest.
Please let us know if reinstalling the new driver helps.
I'll go looking for what better card will suit your system, but heading off for a few days over Xmas (well, I'm being dragged off to some out-in-the-country spot infested with sandflies and grandkids).
Try that driver install and see if that helps first.
Edit: Your card uses PCI-Express 2.0 x 16 interface. That slot is part of your motherboard.
A modern card (PCI-Express 3.0 or PCIE 4.0) card will fit your slot as long as your power supply is big enough output. My machine had a GEFORCE GTX 1050 TI 4GT OCV1 (PCI-Express 3.0 x 16) which I replaced to get better (faster) photo editing performance.
Now running a RTX 2060 Super which has 8GB memory on the card. This works well.
So pretty much any modern card will be OK but for your system needs to be single slot design, and dimensions that will fit inside your case. But there will be a performance hit with a modern card in an old computer.




  
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Dec 22, 2021 13:23 |  #6

Grey Kiwi wrote in post #19321437 (external link)
Gee, that's an old card. Came out in 2009.

Here's more details for you.
https://www.techpoweru​p.com …pecs/quadro-fx-3800.c1321 (external link)

Latest (and last) driver is here (but I see you have version 342.01 anyway. Maybe the driver is corrupt).
https://www.nvidia.com …driverResults.a​spx/94229/ (external link)

Maybe download and install that driver just to see if that's all that's needed.

But such an old card suggests that the entire system is really needing sorting.
May be time for a new one with better spec's?
It's not worth upgrading really old gear to be honest.
Please let us know if reinstalling the new driver helps.
I'll go looking for what better card will suit your system, but heading off for a few days over Xmas (well, I'm being dragged off to some out-in-the-country spot infested with sandflies and grandkids).
Try that driver install and see if that helps first.
Cheers.


Thanks so much, I'll try. Reading and following instructions was never a strong suit of mine and when it comes to computers, systems and their components... oh boy.... I might have to take a few days off just after trying :lol:
On a serious note, it is frustrating... My motivation to get creative with focus stacking, exposure stacking for really awesome/creative images especially at night.... all my motivation is at all time "F-It... why bother if I can't even edit them properly and blend two or three images..."
:-(
Husband is open to buying a new computer or the tower I suppose, thank God he is extremely supportive of my photography and is pushing me to actually pursue it as a career since he brings home the big bacon.


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Dec 22, 2021 13:35 |  #7

So I installed/downloaded from that link you gave me, PS is still saying Graphics Processor not compatible... damn it.


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Dec 22, 2021 15:41 |  #8

So I think I'm going to look into buying a new tower, I'd like to stay under $500 if possible... $699 is my max limit...
Now I just need to figure out which one will work with PS 2022.


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Dec 22, 2021 16:04 |  #9

I just saw your $$ limit.
Sadly that won't get you what you need. It will buy a new real cheap card, but not a complete tower.
To give you a starting point I did some homework for you.
I am an Intel/Gigabyte/Evga/et​c fan, so I chose items that I know, I have used, and trust.
You can spend more, or slightly less, but this would be a good wee computer and quite fast. Certainly would handle the Photoshop duties.
Note that no monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc though.
I did this through https://pcbuilder.net/​list/ (external link)
You may find a cheaper supplier, but I leave that up to you.
This is very close to my computer spec's (actually it's slightly better as mine was built last year).
Can you actually buy a new tower in USA for $500 - $700? What are the spec's?
I do doubt it would have the grunt you need.
Sorry.

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Dec 22, 2021 16:24 |  #10

For example, I found this at Walmart.
https://www.walmart.co​m …5Ti5104-16256nH/985713615 (external link)
The SSD is too small. It's only big enough for Windows (Windows needs 20% free space in which to do it's 'thinking'). My Windows 11 machine uses 380GB just for Windows install and a couple of smaller programs (anti-virus, etc). My main programs are then installed on a 2TB HDD.
You would need another hard drive/SSD to put your programs (Photoshop, etc) on.
It's an i5 which would be OK, but certainly not a speedy computer.
Really needs more RAM. 16GB is OK, 32GB is better.
The trouble is that as programs evolve and get more complex they need better hardware.
This Walmart system is in your price range but really not what you need.
Plus, you still need to fit a graphics card.
It won't be easy!




  
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Dec 22, 2021 16:40 as a reply to  @ Grey Kiwi's post |  #11

I know my price range isn't high enough for a great option, but I would certainly avoid Walmart lol.
What about this on eBay?
https://www.ebay.com …960?hash=item28​ab88d410:g (external link):xMAAAOSwathfih1B


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Dec 22, 2021 17:36 |  #12

It's an older i7 CPU (Gen3),
Todays i7 are Gen11 and Gen12 is coming (may be out in US already?).
Still no graphics card.
No use with onboard graphics.
I checked a few more of those, and they are all old gear.
You would be needing better.
You might pick up a more modern system from a gamer selling his rig because he 'needs' something quicker.
If I see something suitable lurking on ebay I will let you know.
I had the same shock when I 'built' my new computer online.
My previous computer cost $NZD1300 (about $USD900).
I did get a jolt when the new one came in at $NZD2700.
But if you buy 'something' cheap because it fits the budget, then you are stuck in another year or two as the programs get more involved and need better spec's.
There is no easy answer. You need to buy for your use requirements first, and budget comes second after that.
If budget is the first priority then the suitability for the job is compromised.




  
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Dec 22, 2021 18:00 |  #13

https://helpx.adobe.co​m …/system-requirements.html (external link)

You have to check this first before deciding on a computer.
That ebay one is not up to the task.
You notice that you need (recommended) minimum 4GB on the graphics card.
I had a GTX 1050Ti card with 4Gb on it, and it was only OK on my old Photoshop CS5.
That's when I found it was cheaper to build a new one instead of trying to upgrade what was essentially an ancient (4 year old) computer.

If anything you look at doesn't come in to at least the minimum specs from Adobe then don't waste your money.
The Adobe recommended specs are much better than just the bare minimum too.
I tried 8GB, then 16GB of RAM.
Finally, with the new build, went to 32GB RAM. Aaaahhhh...that's so much quicker.
If you have a bunch of photos to do then quicker is way better!




  
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Dec 22, 2021 22:10 |  #14

I ran LR for a while with the built-in display adapter on a Dell XPS 8940. I put a bunch of RAM in first thing, but didn't get a graphics card until later. And even then it was only because a few features in LR - like drag-to-zoom - require a dedicated graphics card. I went on Ebay and bought the cheapest used one I could find that met Adobe's minimum specs. I don't think I even use the LR features I bought it for, but it seems to have helped a little bit, generally, and I don't regret putting it in.

I think I paid around $800 for the desktop with an i5-10400 processor + 512 SSD and around $60 for the card.

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Dec 22, 2021 22:42 |  #15

drsilver wrote in post #19321614 (external link)
I ran LR for a while with the built-in display adapter on a Dell XPS 8940. I put a bunch of RAM in first thing, but didn't get a graphics card until later. And even then it was only because a few features in LR - like drag-to-zoom - require a dedicated graphics card. I went on Ebay and bought the cheapest used one I could find that met Adobe's minimum specs. I don't think I even use the LR features I bought it for, but it seems to have helped a little bit, generally, and I don't regret putting it in.

I think I paid around $800 for the desktop with an i5-10400 processor + 512 SSD and around $60 for the card.

System Display Adapter - Intel UHD Graphics 630
PCIe Display Adapter - NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050

Yes, good call.
It can be done if you know what you are doing.
But OP does say that 'not into' computers.
I use a lot of other products (various Topaz, JixiPix, Affinity Photo, Affinity Designer) and found my 1050 Ti 4GB card wanting.
Was getting artifacts on the image, and slow rendering.
The RTX 2060 Super has sorted all that out.
I didn't see the OP's $$ limit while I was checking out the price of a decent modern computer.
Plus, I like things to happen quickly, and waiting for (say) 5 minutes for a single image to render is too slow for me.
I don't use Lightroom now. Just use the generic Canon DPP4. Still have my old LR copy but haven't bothered installing it.
Most of my photos are now landscapes, and usually deep inside the NZ bush.
I haven't found the need for LR now.
The other problem seems to be that OP uses PS2022. Maybe a change to Affinity Photo might help with that old machine?




  
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