No more Canon DSLRs

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19333373
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Are you fishing for Title Fairy attention?

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It appears to have worked.

digital paradise wrote in post #19335308
It appears to have worked.

I don't remember what your title used to be??

Congrats on the new one! <smyle>

I mean, things are tough all over, but I would think they should improve mirrorless before completely crapping all over the DSLR market. Or at least keep manufacturing one or two legacy bodies.

Viewfinders aren’t that great, yet, and I hate using the back screen to compose my shots. Battery life sucks because you have to be using some kind of screen.

And I have a massive collection of EF lenses. I know that they work with an adapter, but just how bad is the burst rate reduction when using EF to RF adapter?

And not everybody is using mirrorless digital cameras for YouTube video streaming. I personally think it’s a cancer.

digital paradise wrote in post #19335308
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It appears to have worked.
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Oh, that's great! . Good to see the TF being active!
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Inspeqtor wrote in post #19335335
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I don't remember what your title used to be??

Congrats on the new one! <smyle>
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I believe that his previous title was ...

"I still have 8 digits left"

... or something very similar.

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Inspeqtor wrote in post #19335335
I don't remember what your title used to be??

Congrats on the new one! <smyle>

I don't really pay attention to that so I forgot. I only (or still) have 8 (or 10) digits left. I think it was a reference to one of these types of cabbage graters. When dad (parents from the old country) got too old I had to do the grating to make their sauerkraut supply. Went through about 3 burlap sacks full. When I got the grated cabbage into the crocks I wouldn't come over for a few weeks because of the smell. They loved it.

Another member here said he seen on of those graters at a local store. I think that was how the conversation got started. There was no protection from those sharp blades except the cabbage in the box itself.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19335356
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Oh, that's great! . Good to see the TF being active!
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I believe that his previous title was ...

"I still have 8 digits left"

... or something very similar.

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That is correct.

digital paradise wrote in post #19335365
I don't really pay attention to that so I forgot. I only (or still) have 8 (or 10) digits left. I think it was a reference to one of these types of cabbage graters. When dad (parents from the old country) got too old I had to do the grating to make their sauerkraut supply. Went through about 3 burlap sacks full. When I got the grated cabbage into the crocks I wouldn't come over for a few weeks because of the smell. They loved it.

Another member here said he seen on of those graters at a local store. I think that was how the conversation got started. There was no protection from those sharp blades except the cabbage in the box itself.

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"Mandolin slicers" were at one point rated as the most dangerous household gadgets in the world! (as I recall from a talk show TV spot in the 80's, so no, nothing to back up this claim )

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #19335426
"Mandolin slicers" were at one point rated as the most dangerous household gadgets in the world! (as I recall from a talk show TV spot in the 80's, so no, nothing to back up this claim )

I didn't know what they were called. Thanks. Yeah I tried to avoid being in a statistic.

ToyotaGlock wrote in post #19335342
I mean, things are tough all over, but I would think they should improve mirrorless before completely crapping all over the DSLR market. Or at least keep manufacturing one or two legacy bodies.

Viewfinders aren’t that great, yet, and I hate using the back screen to compose my shots. Battery life sucks because you have to be using some kind of screen.

And I have a massive collection of EF lenses. I know that they work with an adapter, but just how bad is the burst rate reduction when using EF to RF adapter?

And not everybody is using mirrorless digital cameras for YouTube video streaming. I personally think it’s a cancer.

The EVF is superior in many situations over OVF.

I don’t see any real degradation in burst rates with my EVF, and I can always get 20fps in electronic shutter if that is an issue.

If you set up the camera properly, battery life isn’t terrible at all, maybe 800-1000 shots or even more.

Throw in IBIS, outstanding eye AF tracking, low light AF, and some other cool features, and the old DSLR design just starts to seem a bit old. I have the R6 and 5d4, the latter rarely comes out to play much these days.

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19335607
The EVF is superior in many situations over OVF.

That statement is rather inconsistent with what you just stated in the R vs. R6 thread, "The R is terrible for action, due to 2 reasons, the AF doesn’t keep up and the EVF display is more of a slideshow and not real action as you try to track subjects." I am puzzled.

1. The R is inferior to newer RF mount bodies, especially with action.

2. EVF advantages are very noticeable when not shooting sports on all the canon mirrorless. Simulated exposure, you can still see the scene even in the dark, focus peaking, easy to see the menus and image review even in the brightest of days, 5x/10x zoom; just to name a few.

My comments are not inconsistent, not all shooting is action based, not all Canon mirrorless act the same way for action shooting or share the same AF system, and EVF has advantages in non action based shooting.

Example: if you do a macro shoot, the R or R5/R6 are all great and the EVF is superior for nailing critical focus for all these models.

Example: if you shoot a ballgame, the R won’t be the best tool at all given the EVF refresh rate/burst implementation, versus what we get with the R5/R6, coupled with the fact these two bodies have much better AF systems (faster, better eye AF, etc).

Wilt wrote in post #19335610
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That statement is rather inconsistent with what you just stated in the R vs. R6 thread, "The R is terrible for action, due to 2 reasons, the AF doesn’t keep up and the EVF display is more of a slideshow and not real action as you try to track subjects." I am puzzled.
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There's nothing inconsistent in what Team Speed said at all.

In his statement here in this thread he is talking about the more advanced mirrorless cameras, compared to DSLRs.

In his statement in that other thread, he was talking about the somewhat outdated R in comparison to the R6.

His post here was in response to a statement that said that Canon should improve mirrorless cameras further before they abandon DSLRs, so it is quite fitting and consistent that he should speak of the more recent mirrorless cameras that have the improved features and capabilities that ToyotaGlock was pining for.


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TeamSpeed wrote in post #19335617
1. The R is inferior to newer RF mount bodies, especially with action.

2. EVF advantages are very noticeable when not shooting sports on all the canon mirrorless. Simulated exposure, you can still see the scene even in the dark, focus peaking, easy to see the menus and image review even in the brightest of days, 5x/10x zoom; just to name a few.

My comments are not inconsistent, not all shooting is action based, not all Canon mirrorless act the same way for action shooting or share the same AF system, and EVF has advantages in non action based shooting.

Example: if you do a macro shoot, the R or R5/R6 are all great and the EVF is superior for nailing critical focus for all these models.

Example: if you shoot a ballgame, the R won’t be the best tool at all gives the EVF refresh rate/burst implementation, versus what we get with the R5/R6, coupled with the fact these two bodies have much better AF systems (faster, better eye AF, etc).

Your additional comments clear up the perceived inconsistency of position. Your Pro's outweigh the Con's that you brought up.

OVF is superior to EVF.

First, it is not healthy to have screen radiation this close to the eye. Or not this close, computer screens are not healthy, they just necessary evil with computing.

Second, EVF consumes battery. Not only in obvious way, but with OVF you don't even have to turn on camera to check composition.

Third, EVF is inferior in the light changing. I'm not sure in which Cannon EVF they have auto brightness like in Olympus, but it is still inferior electronics between light and human eye.

Fourth, panning with EVF sucks. You might have to pay $$$$ in the hope it won't, but even Rebel is still superior for panning.

Radiation does not hurt your eyes. Just ask Marty.