No more Canon DSLRs

kf095 wrote in post #19335821
OVF is superior to EVF.

First, it is not healthy to have screen radiation this close to the eye. Or not this close, computer screens are not healthy, they just necessary evil with computing.

Second, EVF consumes battery. Not only in obvious way, but with OVF you don't even have to turn on camera to check composition.

Third, EVF is inferior in the light changing. I'm not sure in which Cannon EVF they have auto brightness like in Olympus, but it is still inferior electronics between light and human eye.

Fourth, panning with EVF sucks. You might have to pay $$$$ in the hope it won't, but even Rebel is still superior for panning.

OVF is superior in many cases, agreed, but not all.

Yes, EVF does consume battery, so there are settings and features to help reduce power usage elsewhere to compensate. So agreed there too.

EVF is not inferior in light changing, I set my brightness and it doesn't change on me. Perhaps you are thinking about the rear LCD? The EVF doesn't have to change brightness since when I press my eye to the cup, whether its light out or dark out, I have my EVF right where I want it.

Panning certainly acts a bit odd with EVF, but refresh rates get faster and faster, and eventually this won't be an issue.

None of this negates my points where EVF is superior though.

kf095 wrote in post #19324511
Couldn't find this topic.
Canon is not going to make any new DSLRs.

I hope, they will keep making existing ones for a while.

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=19331261

mannetti21 wrote in post #19337159
https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=19331261

This was already discussed here in this thread, reply #10:

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=19324800

TeamSpeed wrote in post #19337173
This was already discussed here in this thread, reply #10:

https://photography-on-the.net …showthread.php?​p=19324800

did anyone notice, "last flagship dSLR"..."Canon Confirms We’ve Seen Its Last Flagship DSLR", not 'last dSLR", a possiblity of what happens vs. what has been literally published statement.
Certainly it might really be 'last dSLR' as the fortunes of a company ebb and wain it may become a necessity. Maybe more than "last flagship dSLR" becomes the strategy.


A newer clarification appeared only two weeks ago
https://photorumors-com.cdn.ampproject.org …x-line-is-discontinued%2F

"Mr. Mitarai commented that the EOS-1DX Mark III will be the last of Canon’s flagship DSLRs as the company focuses on developing mirrorless cameras. This comment is correct. At the same time, some publications interpreted Mitarai’s words as meaning that Canon had officially announced the end of all of its SLR camera lines, however, Mitarai’s words were only about the flagship line of SLR cameras (EOS-1D X Mark III – editor’s note by PhotoWebExpo.

In an interview, Mr. Mitarai said, “Market needs are shifting towards mirrorless cameras at an ever-increasing pace. We are recruiting more and more people to follow this trend. ”We will continue to bring both DSLRs and mirrorless cameras to the market – a discontinuation date for this model ( EOS-1D X Mark III ) has yet to be determined and will reflect customer needs and market prospects."

Yes we discussed that here too... back at reply #5. It was clear that he said then that there would be no more "flagship" DSLRs.

I don't believe the "we will continue to bring DSLRs to the market" part unless they plan on emptying the parts bin by creating some new super Rebel lines that will extinguish any surplus of 90D sensors. Maybe they have a ton of mirror servos and pentaprisms taking up space that they need to liquidate.

Certainly no 1D series any longer, and there cannot be any successor to the 90D, because the 100D existed a long time ago.

Maybe an EOS 78D.... to succeed the 77D?

I just checked on R3.
IMO.
Fist ever R series camera which looks like "traditional". Really makes sense comparing to other R with single number.
First achievement on the R body. To have R body more oriented on proven ergonomics, controls, layout.
Well, second, actually. First, was with making of first FF digital Rebel a.k.a. RP.
R3 is also kind of light body, next to same as in 5D series. Unfortunately they have to keep it on heavy price...

Agreed on price, I still feel it is priced a bit too high, however as long as it sells, Canon won't care. My personal limit for purchase of the R3 will be about $5700 or so.

kf095 wrote in post #19324511
Couldn't find this topic.
Canon is not going to make any new DSLRs.

I hope, they will keep making existing ones for a while.

To be more precises

Canon/Nikon/Pentax have ceased R&D spend for future dSLR bodies, lenses & accessories.

They will continue producing current SKUs until demand is too low to make any further units.

The way this was phrased it came across that only Canon will not make any new DSLR units in 2021-onward.

I expect dSLR bodies, lenses & accessories batch production to end as early as year 2024.

All the technical concerns of mirrorless cameras will be addressed by as early as year 2024 SKUs.

I doubt mirrorless will be able to give OVF and DSLR battery life anytime soon. Canon RF lenses are too weak still comparing to huge selection of EF. It is going to be same by 2024.

All of this mirrorless hype seems to be forums only. I'm back to Toronto DT on regular basis and in last few days people I spotted with cameras where ones with DSLRs and only. Dude from this evening has super long tripod attached to it. IBIS is another forum bias, it seems

But I bring Ricoh GRD III for my street shots. Still superior to mobile phones cameras and funky.
Can't find any reason to pay ten more times for GR III.

kf095 wrote in post #19421014
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All of this mirrorless hype seems to be forums only. I'm back to Toronto DT on regular basis and in last few days people I spotted with cameras where ones with DSLRs and only. Dude from this evening has super long tripod attached to it. IBIS is another forum bias, it seems
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I assure you that mirrorless is more than just forum hype.

Amongst the many serious, successful wildlife photographers that I meet in the field, the vast majority switched to mirrorless a few years ago when the Canon R5 became available. . In fact, of all the folks I know who shoot wildlife professionally or semi-professionally (for publication), I can only think of 3, including myself, who are still using DSLRs. . And almost all of them have migrated entirely, or almost entirely, to new RF lenses.


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Tom Reichner wrote in post #19421029
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I assure you that mirrorless is more than just forum hype.

Amongst the many serious, successful wildlife photographers that I meet in the field, the vast majority switched to mirrorless a few years ago when the Canon R5 became available. . In fact, of all the folks I know who shoot wildlife professionally or semi-professionally (for publication), I can only think of 3, including myself, who are still using DSLRs. . And almost all of them have migrated entirely, or almost entirely, to new RF lenses.

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But actual figures do not support the big wave of mirrorless purchases! Figures do reflect a big drop (red dashed line) in dSLRs from the lofty heights. Petapixel article:
https://petapixel.com …-of-camera-manufacturers/

shows a fairly flat history of mirrorless (green dashed line) thru 2021...no big rise in the adoption of mirrorless!

kf095 wrote in post #19421014
I doubt mirrorless will be able to give OVF and DSLR battery life anytime soon. Canon RF lenses are too weak still comparing to huge selection of EF. It is going to be same by 2024.

All of this mirrorless hype seems to be forums only. I'm back to Toronto DT on regular basis and in last few days people I spotted with cameras where ones with DSLRs and only. Dude from this evening has super long tripod attached to it. IBIS is another forum bias, it seems

But I bring Ricoh GRD III for my street shots. Still superior to mobile phones cameras and funky.
Can't find any reason to pay ten more times for GR III.

Canon’s roadmap includes 32 new lenses by 2026 according to Canon’s CEO.

Did the people you saw at Toronto DT buy their dSLRs within the last 2 years? Odds are they may be using gear bought prior to the 1st COVID lockdown.

Have you seen the bird & animal photo output of the 2021 EOS R3, 2020 EOS R5 & 2022 EOS R7? Canon spent R&D money to develop an autofocus system specific for birds & animals. They never did this with any EF mount body.

As you see no reason to pay ten more times for GR III will you be buying a future point & shoot befor year 2030?

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19421029
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And almost all of them have migrated entirely, or almost entirely, to new RF lenses.

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Nice to be rich.

I'd guess that most people who think that OVF/DSLR are better than EVF/Mirrorless have not tried a current mirrorless camera.

I have been a photographer since about 1970, owned many Nikon and Hasselblad film cameras and switched to Canon digital in 2007. I now have a 5DIV and a R6 which is about 18 months old, which I sold a 1DX to buy. I rarely (almost never) pick up the 5DIV anymore. There is nothing it does better than the R6 except provide more pixels.

The R6 is the best camera I have ever owned. Battery life is not a problem in fact last Saturday I shot a local college football game. I got there at about 10:30 am and left around 2:30. I shot about 2,700 frames (about double what I wish I did) on one Canon battery.

The major camera companies have figured out mirrorless and I would never want to go back. Oh, and I use adapted lenses, which work better with my R6 than they did with my 5D cameras, so I have the entire Canon EF lens selection available to me.

Anyone looking for a 5DIV?

Wilt wrote in post #19421036
But actual figures do not support the big wave of mirrorless purchases! Figures do reflect a big drop (red dashed line) in dSLRs from the lofty heights. Petapixel article:
https://petapixel.com …-of-camera-manufacturers/

shows a fairly flat history of mirrorless (green dashed line) thru 2021...no big rise in the adoption of mirrorless!

Last 6 years CIPA worldwide shipments of digital still cameras.