Interesting article titled "Our world is not very S.M.A.R.T. about SSDs"

drsilver wrote in post #19342006
I think somewhere in this thread it was mentioned that the projected lifespan of an SSD is 10 years, give or take. Who the heck uses a 10-year-old SSD?

It depends on the amount of usage. Samsung, for example, states 10 years of you R/W 40GB every single day with their 850 Pro SATA (a drive technology that came out in 2014). Those drives have a 10 year warranty.

davesrose wrote in post #19342093
It depends on the amount of usage. Samsung, for example, states 10 years of you R/W 40GB every single day with their 850 Pro SATA (a drive technology that came out in 2014). Those drives have a 10 year warranty.

Like many things, "it depends..."
Per Samsung SSD warranty documentation, only the 850 Pro has 10 year, most models have 5 year...some have 3 year.
https://www.samsung.co​m …d_Warranty_Engl​ish_UK.pdf

You'll see Samsung also states TBW (terabytes written). So again, depends on your usage.

Wilt wrote in post #19342120
Like many things, "it depends..."
Per Samsung SSD warranty documentation, only the 850 Pro has 10 year, most models have 5 year...some have 3 year.
https://www.samsung.co​m …d_Warranty_Engl​ish_UK.pdf

Evidence that while SSD technology improvements have made them more reliable with longer lifetimes, not all SSDs share those improvements, as only the more dependable technology from Samsung has the longer warranty period, reflecting what the OP link stated about warranty duration on different SSD.

So as to say one cannot generalize that all SSDs have lifespan based on "age of drive", when SSDs have different technologies for distributing data on chip, and everyone has different applications. You cannot say that since my average failure rate for HDD is 7 years, and if SSD is 25% more reliable that means one can safely extrapolate 11 years (when reliability is a feature of each model). Even before SSDs, platter drives weren't all the same about which ones had the best engineering for durability. Same is true for SSD drives that are available. Take a look at this list of best high speed SSDs, and you'll see that while most have a 5 year warranty, there's quite a large range of TBW between drive models (1200-5100 TBW).

https://www.tomshardwa​re.com/reviews/best-ssds,3891.html

True, that is why 'It depends' is a key phrase!

Yes, so I think it's still safe to say it depends on your usage. Now one can get wound in knots if trying to figure out if their drive is going to fail them in a certain number of years. I guess I'll just have to see how long my laptop goes that I use for heavy downloading an re-writes. The oldest SSD I have is about 9 years old now, a PCIe in a mobile workstation. I now just turn it on from time to time to check on something. Theoretically it might go for awhile since it's no longer getting heavy use, and there's still a working battery.

davesrose wrote in post #19342145
Yes, so I think it's still safe to say it depends on your usage. Now one can get wound in knots if trying to figure out if their drive is going to fail them in a certain number of years. I guess I'll just have to see how long my laptop goes that I use for heavy downloading an re-writes. The oldest SSD I have is about 9 years old now, a PCIe in a mobile workstation. I now just turn it on from time to time to check on something. Theoretically it might go for awhile since it's no longer getting heavy use, and there's still a working battery.

Similarly, HD have a stated practical life of 3-5 years, yet in 37 years of personal computing, I can count only 4 drive failures, yet I had both PC and NAS that were powered on 24/7...the 5 year theoretical duration would predict 7 drive failures.

The only protection from failure IT professionals knows is in redundancy.
If you are not making disk image backup to avoid extra time to restore OS disk, partition - no articles are going to help you.
As for images storage, it just totally stupid not to have mirrored drives at least.
I don't have deep pockets for this porpoise via SSD. I have to mirrored 5 TB HDDs to keep images as in the long term storage.
I also duplicate most important images across two PCs.

If you follow common sense and deal with OS and media appropriately here is zero chance of "catastrophic failure" and SSD just speeds processing significantly without some questionable articles, statistics.

I have more than 10 YO Panasonic Toughbook. With 10 YO or so SSD. It just total rubbish to draw false assumptions about it been "junk"
Total, utter rubbish.
I have it on Win 10 which is still supported. It doesn't slow me on anything.

I have business account with Dell at same time. Over this years we have cycled through numerous, "up to date" Dell laptops.
They where crapping out on steady pace. It became so bad, Dell has send me free of charge, extra 1K+ USD laptop at some point.

kf095 wrote in post #19342308
The only protection from failure IT professionals knows is in redundancy.
If you are not making disk image backup to avoid extra time to restore OS disk, partition - no articles are going to help you.
As for images storage, it just totally stupid not to have mirrored drives at least.
I don't have deep pockets for this porpoise via SSD. I have to mirrored 5 TB HDDs to keep images as in the long term storage.
I also duplicate most important images across two PCs.

If you follow common sense and deal with OS and media appropriately here is zero chance of "catastrophic failure" and SSD just speeds processing significantly without some questionable articles, statistics.

^^^
ounce of prevention...
but it seems so many are unaware of capability of System Image, nor file backup capabilities provided within O/S, and they go buying utilities.

In light of this thread, there seems to have been a major manufacturing problem that has affected Western Digital to the tune of 6.5 million terabytes, The issue is expected to drive up chip costs. See https://gizmodo.com …ctory-contamin-1848522061

Find out what the manufacturer states is the expected TB write capacity and then you have some indicator as to a replacement schedule. The specs that I recall for the Samsung 840/850EVO in mine are around 250TB range. I run Crystal Disk Info that monitors the SSD usage and Terabytes written:

https://osdn.net …rystalDiskInfo8​_15_1.exe/

This is what my current 840EVO has done so it has a long ways to go under good circumstances.

RDKirk wrote in post #19341727
I long ago followed the practice of putting all data on other drives and reserving C: for operating system and programs....

Since my first dual HD machine, which was Windows 95. Back then, being able to "format C:" was mandatory just to keep things running smoothly IMHO.

Tom Reichner wrote in post #19342021
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I sure hope that isn't the case for regular drives.

My computer has a regular disk drive. . I bought it when it was 2 years old and have owned it and used it heavily for 7 years .... so it's 9 years old now. . I fully expect to get at least another 4 years of heavy daily use out of it before replacing it. . Hopefully even more than 4 years. . So if what you're saying about SSDs is also true of regular disk drives, then I may be in for a bitter disappointment within the next year.

So, how do regular drives and SSDs compare, specifically in the areas that you mentioned in the afore-quoted post?

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Bit, none of your important data is just on that one hard rive? right?